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Real time or evo time?

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Making money from mining rocks. That's what exploration and mining companies do.
Old earth models work.
A no go, Mate. Reason, the Earth had Apparent Age when Created. A natural world apparent age.

I'm quite effective in mining hydrocarbons from stratagraphic sequences with a Young Earth that has Embedded Age.

The Holy Spirit is always near, and Scientism is not the way of life. Man has polluted science.
 
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A no go, Mate. Reason, the Earth had Apparent Age when Created. A natural world apparent age.

Same old nonsense. God made rocks look older than they really are. That idea has absolutely no biblical basis, and it is yet another ad hoc hypothesis dreamt up by YECs to try and explain away inconvenient facts.

Truly pathetic.
 
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Same old nonsense. God made rocks look older than they really are. That idea has absolutely no biblical basis, and it is yet another ad hoc hypothesis dreamt up by YECs to try and explain away inconvenient facts.

Truly pathetic.
They only look older in most cases to those who willingly seared out their eyeballs with silly science, and who view all rocks in the dark coloration of faith based fables.
 
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They only look older in most cases to those who willingly seared out their eyeballs with silly science, and who view all rocks in the dark coloration of faith based fables.

Gobbledegook.
 
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A no go, Mate. Reason, the Earth had Apparent Age when Created. A natural world apparent age.

I'm quite effective in mining hydrocarbons from stratagraphic sequences with a Young Earth that has Embedded Age.

The Holy Spirit is always near, and Scientism is not the way of life. Man has polluted science.

It sounds like you're trying to get out of cognitive dissonance by severing the Gordian Knot with a sword. Why would anyone who hadn't reached the conclusion a priori that the Bible was inerrant and absolutely required a young Earth accept this idea?
 
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All we see existing here is a gross and flagrant abuse of the English language by your attempted molestation of the word reality....again.

And once again, you try to redefine reality until it means "unreal".
 
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If some silly poster wanted to claim there was ancient DNA from the dawn of time, why naturally we must demand that they show the proof.

Then I'm sure you'll agree that if some silly poster wanted to claim there was a different state past, why naturally we must demand that they show the proof.
 
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If some silly poster wanted to claim there was ancient DNA from the dawn of time, why naturally we must demand that they show the proof.

Let's see you prove there isn't. You can't, can you? So you have nothing.
 
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Then I'm sure you'll agree that if some silly poster wanted to claim there was a different state past, why naturally we must demand that they show the proof.

Literally from the dawn of time? I mean, it's impossible to prove 100% (as are most things, really), but it's unfathomably improbable. As in, there are numbers that reflect the odds here, but I'm not sure there's enough room in the known universe to write them out.
 
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And once again, you try to redefine reality until it means "unreal".
You need some basis to call something real or unreal. Trying to label a fantasy state past that you pulled out of your head real, and the bible record unreal is purely an exercise in vanity and faith.
 
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Then I'm sure you'll agree that if some silly poster wanted to claim there was a different state past, why naturally we must demand that they show the proof.
Not if that silly poster was God Almighty via His verified word to man. Not if science didn't know either way. Give it up.
 
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Let's see you prove there isn't. You can't, can you? So you have nothing.
No need to prove there is no known DNA from the dawn of time. That should be patently obvious to even the least informed of posters here. Male or female.
 
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