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Is God a liar?

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Do you believe in Old Earth Creationism, or Theistic Evolution? After all, the only difference between micro-Evolution and macro-Evolution is time.
Old earth creationism, I thought that was evident...He he.

I just see zero proof of any evolution whatsoever. There are no links, period.
 
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Do you believe in Old Earth Creationism, or Theistic Evolution? After all, the only difference between micro-Evolution and macro-Evolution is time.

Not true in real life.

In Micro evolution - the bacteria "eat something new for breakfast" - but they do not turn into eukaryotes. So then micro evolution "change" - but not "macro evolution" ever.

Indeed observing them over 50,000 generation has proven the point beyond question.
 
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"yom" is a period of time, not always a day.

Context determines the meaning "six DAYS you shall labor...for in SIX DAYS the LORD Made" - is a literal day context.

to eisegete alternate definitions into the text just for the sake of "preference" is extreme eisgesis.
 
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Baloney!!!!!! There is overwhelming evidence.
You are overwhelmed by bluff.
You can repeat your denial til the cows come home and it won't make it true.
Iḿ not in denial you are, of God's Word and of the actual evidence against your naturalistic beliefs.

But you have to, i guess, because the RCC has pronounces the biggest lie ever sold to be true.
The majority of folks who accept evolution are not naturalists, so stop equating evolution with naturalism.
You don; t even get what i'm explaining.
You're simply wrong.

Here's why in a nutshell, behold the evidence or the lack of it:

 
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Do you believe in Old Earth Creationism, or Theistic Evolution? After all, the only difference between micro-Evolution and macro-Evolution is time.
Only those who have no understanding or knowledge, or simply hate God (or the idea) say that.
 
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Seriously. When I was a creationist, I didn't even know what scientific method was or how it worked.
Apparently you still don't, because evolution can not be tested, it is assumed history.
 
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But you must entertain considerable doubt about Genesis yourself. You need it to be 100% accurate literal history or you can't believe it.

Can you point to a more specific problem with believing God??
 
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And they can't, so there's no evidence, it is therefore a belief.
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amen!

Blind faith evolutionism proclaims "an amoeba will sure enough turn into a rabbit over time given a talented enough amoeba and a long enough and talented enough period of time filled with just-so stories that are easy enough to tell".

I prefer the Bible over such junk-science false-religion.
 
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"yom" is a period of time, not always a day. I have done an in depth study, of science and Religion, then I tried to merge the two together using logic. ...

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and Darkness was on he face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

{{ Notice, the Earth was void and without form, that is because God only Spoke it into Creation, it actuality it took 9.2 Billion years to form. Notice it says there was darkness on the face of the deep ? Well the WMAP/NASA Project, which has mapped out the Universe with Microwaves, says there was darkness on the face of the deep. (Big Bang, followed by Inflation, followed by Cosmic Microwave background where after 380,000 years loose electrons cool enough to combine with protons. The Universe becomes Transparent to Light. The Microwave background begins to shine. Then the dark ages/clouds of dark hydrogen gas cool and coalesce. }}

{{ The first stars appear..........Gas Clouds collapse, the fusion of Stars begin, the first of which appears at about 400 million years after the Big Bang. SO............When the Bible says Darkness was on the face of the deep, God knew exactly what was happening in the very beginning !! }}

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. {{ The First day was Darkness and Light. People have often confused this, but God is saying there was Darkness, then Light (Stars formed at 400 million years).......That was the first day. It lasted 9.2 Billion years, give or take a few million years....LOL. }}

You end the first day with "..That was the first day. It lasted 9.2 Billion years, give or take a few million years....LOL."

indeed -- laughable just as you point out.
 
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Baloney!!!!!! There is overwhelming evidence. You can repeat your denial til the cows come home and it won't make it true.

The majority of folks who accept evolution are not naturalists, so stop equating evolution with naturalism.

It is the religion of atheists - there is no escaping that.

Your point that others also choose to adopt that religion - does not cause it to cease being the atheist's religious doctrine on origins.
 
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I just see zero proof of any evolution whatsoever. There are no links, period.
There are a plethora of links. Tell me if Homo Habilus is a man or an ape.
 
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In Micro evolution - the bacteria "eat something new for breakfast" - but they do not turn into eukaryotes.
All it takes is the right mutations and symbiosis (specifically endosymbiosis), which happen and DID happen given enough TIME
 
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You are overwhelmed by bluff.Iḿ not in denial you are, of God's Word and of the actual evidence against your naturalistic beliefs.

But you have to, i guess, because the RCC has pronounces the biggest lie ever sold to be true.You don; t even get what i'm explaining.
You're simply wrong.

Here's why in a nutshell, behold the evidence or the lack of it:

1. I switched from Creationism to Evolutionism LONG before I became Catholic, way back when I was Evangelical, because the FACTS supported it.

2. I can't believe you think the Piltdown Man disproves Evolution. The fraud of the Piltdown Man BOLSTERS Evolution/Science. Why? Because Science worked: it found the fraud and debunked it. And that SAME SCIENCE proves Evolution.
 
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Only those who have no understanding or knowledge, or simply hate God (or the idea) say that.
Funny, I am none of those things, and yet I have said it. Guess you're wrong.
 
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Apparently you still don't, because evolution can not be tested, it is assumed history.
Evolution can be tested as follows:

Hypothesis: Evolution is true therefore we should expect to find gradual changes in the fossil record
Test: Look for fossils in different strata of rock and see if there is change from level to level
Record Results:
whale_evo.jpg

Reach conclusions: Evolution is true: whales evolved.
 
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It is the religion of atheists - there is no escaping that.
Certainly not. MOST evolutionists believe in God--remember that atheism is relatively rare. 58% of Catholics believe in evolution. 51% of Mainline Protestants accept evolution. You are simply and completely wrong.
 
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