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i ask for advice and counsel here, I dont come here to complain. Ok? And I think that goes for most people here who are christians.
If you dont have the grace to give biblical advice please DO NOT RESPOND. It hurts people when you do that, and does not help their situation. Please answer prayerfully, we all struggle with certain areas in our life and actually its a big thing to share our problems and ask for help.
 

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People are all at different levels, in a church people are careful what they say, on a forum there is more freedom to express ourselves. This is not the place to get perfect advise. It comes from the hearts of people, all at various levels of faith.

I know some of the advise is just not inline with scripture, but I am sure God can work through it all, and get good advise to people through these forums.
 
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Some advice boils down to common sense, so a lot of the time, imho, people don't bother backing it up with scripture because there isn't necessarily scripture for every little thing people ask advice for. Also, this is a public forum, so anyone can answer any of the advice (Christian, since it is for Christian edification). If there is something you don't like, just ignore it. But I don't think you can tell people not to post.
 
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Well Im not asking for PERFECT advice but I often see people treating people badly or without grace just because they've asked for help. I'm sure God does work through the different counsels here but I think just a reminder that people asking for help/advice are in a vulnerable position and we wouldn't ask if its not necessary.

This is also a christian part of the forum, so I do think non christians should not be advising people on here.
 
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perhaps this is a good place to talk about offense versus advice. people often take offense when they get the advice they ask for (not saying this applies to you Goodbook; but it does apply to many people who ask for advice here).

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many of the requests for advice in the advice forum are from people who have taken offense (yes, you must take offense - offense can't be forced on you against your will). either they feel that they've been disrespected, or not treated fairly, or aren't getting something they think they deserve from someone else - all self-focused. wives and husbands ask for advice on how to make their spouse treat them better; people ask for advice on how to make God treat them better; kids ask for advice on how to make their parents treat them better. the Truth is that offense can only result from judgment - judgment that someone else (even God) isn't doing what they need to do for the individual asking for advice.

offense is a faith-stopper, and a milestone on the road to rejecting God - it doesn't matter what the excuse for offense is because offense always assumes that the performance of the one offended is above reproach; but again, the Truth is that none of us meet the core qualification of perfect performance in any area, so to be offended is to be deceived - offense is always focused on promoting or defending self rather than on selflessly helping others.

no Christian would claim that their performance is so perfect that they have earned blessings from God, yet i see this attitude frequently in requests for advice from people who are blind to what judgment really is. people tend to compartmentalize their thinking in this area; they think that if they could sit down with God and the person who has offended them, that God would surely see things their way and correct the offender - but when you ask God to judge between yourself and another person, you're asking Him to judge each of you against HIS standard of perfection instead of yours - and no one can meet His standard of perfection in their performance - 'to offend in one point is to be guilty of all' - in order to be offended, you must lose sight of that core Truth.

so when advice is given to someone that has taken some offense that points out the root cause of their offense as self-centered pride, often they will take even more offense; seldom does a person asking for advice come back and say 'i see; the real reason i'm offended is because i'm not walking in selfless love - my focus is on my self rather than the other person'. there is never any excuse for taking offense - nor is there ever any offense that isn't taken - offense is something we do to ourselves - it is never the result of how others treat us.

if any of us truly got what we deserve, then on the occasion of our first transgression of any of God's laws, we would die immediately and go straight to hell for eternity - none of us would live ling enough to take offense. to ask for judgment of someone else's words or actions that cause us to take offense is to ask for righteous judgment of our own offensive words and actions toward God - no one in their right mind wants this.

it's easy to recognize offense in a request for advice - just look at the focus of the request - is the focus on the promotion of the person asking for advice, or on the promotion of someone else? we all fail at this at times (me too) - if only we could remember that as Jesus hung on the cross, He forgave the people who put Him there; then we would never take offense for lesser trasngressions of the law of Love
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Its funny because I am just reading a book on offense right now called Unoffendable - by Brant Hansen

Its about how we aren't entitled to our anger and that as christians we need to be unoffendable.
 
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I'm talking about people who ask for advice about a genuine struggle and the person responding just takes offence and puts them down. Its not christian to do that. Most people on here are asking something to help them walk closer in His ways, not because they feel like they've been treated unfairly and want sympathy.

At least thats how I see it.
 
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I find it interesting that...not many people here give biblical advice at all just their opinions.

Its really not helpful to give opinions, masked as advice. You can argue all you like but you cannot argue with what scripture says and this is what the OP asks for..BIBLICAL advice.

So personal soapboxes are irrelevant.

We are to encourage one another, not tear OP down. If you lack the ability to divide the word correctly its better you not post it all and save people the bother as I see others not seasoning their words with salt, being ungracious and generally bullying.
 
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I find it interesting that...not many people here give biblical advice at all just their opinions.

Its really not helpful to give opinions, masked as advice. You can argue all you like but you cannot argue with what scripture says and this is what the OP asks for..BIBLICAL advice.

So personal soapboxes are irrelevant.

We are to encourage one another, not tear OP down. If you lack the ability to divide the word correctly its better you not post it all and save people the bother as I see others not seasoning their words with salt, being ungracious and generally bullying.

at least i did identify my post above as 'soapbox' :)

i like your post; but you also neglected to include scripture to justify it, rendering it to be another soapbox post like mine above :). we're all more alike than we are different :)

thank God for mercy!!!
 
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Also Ephesians 4:29

Now sometimes you may need to rebuke somone or admonish them, but remember other people read advice too, not just OP. Post something edifying.

Hebrews 10:24

If we just post our own opinions, thats not going to help someone. Our faith requires action. Often someone needs help on what to DO as well. Whether its to pray or HOW to pray, how to witness, to repent or whatever. Reading certain passages of scripture. Maybe to stop doing something thats harmful. Maybe they need to submit to God and resist the devil.

Ok but then you also need to replace it with a loving action. Make suggestions on what these loving actions could be. the OP shouldnt feel that they asked a question of their brothers and sisters in vain.
 
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1 thessalonians 5:11 cuts both ways - does a request for advice seek to edify others? or does it find fault in them, and seek to justify self? the same is true for Ephesians 4:29 and Hebrews 10:24 - remember that the word of God is a TWO-edged sword...
 
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The bible be like a two-edged sword, it's truth can cut and that can hurt and or offend,
it can also be freeing and bring joy with it's truth.

Some read offense when advice pricks them because they be in the wrong or they could
be just looking to stir something up, there be peoples who act that in real life to.
 
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No, a request for advice can edify others if someone else is going through the same thing.
For example, it does seem many people suffer from ocd, have doubts or have struggles with relating to others. It is ok to ask questions and ask other christians advice in order to live out Jesus commands.

We are to love one another. Not everyone is born or raised in a christian families here. Not everyone grew up in church. Not everyone has a mum or dad or big sis or bro they can just ask.

Babes in christ need milk. More mature christians need meat. Be discerning.
 
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If you expect OPs to have it all together and berate them for asking questions because they are beneath YOUR level of faith then you lack compassion.

Remember how Jesus was patient when his discples just werent getting it. You know Jesus could have thrown Peter off the boat for being such a pain. But he didnt. He prayed for him that his faith would not fail.
 
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Some come here only looking for people to back up their wrong belief. And when they are given advice they get mad because its not what they wanted to here. For example if someone comes here who is scared og getting married, but feels its ok to have sex with a bf/gf because they don't want to get married. Of course they aren't going to like the answers they hear.

Now, sometimes people get upset because others give advice based on what we are told. Obviously none of us are mind readers so if someone leaves out important info we may come to a wrong conclusion. Its just how it is online. You have to give everyone the details so we don't make assumptions. Granted there is two sides to every story.

But yes, there are times when people asking advice just get to listen as people go from a "answer session" to a "argument session" and the holier then thou people come out. It is annoying. But thats what the report button is for.
 
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I find it interesting that...not many people here give biblical advice at all just their opinions.

Its really not helpful to give opinions, masked as advice. You can argue all you like but you cannot argue with what scripture says and this is what the OP asks for..BIBLICAL advice.

So personal soapboxes are irrelevant.

We are to encourage one another, not tear OP down. If you lack the ability to divide the word correctly its better you not post it all and save people the bother as I see others not seasoning their words with salt, being ungracious and generally bullying.
Who does interpret scripture correctly? I bet you think you do. How do you know? See if you ask every christian if they have any beliefs that are wrong they will all say no. Doesn't mean they are right. So nobody can assume they are right and others are wrong.

As understanding of the original languages improves then that affects understanding of certain passages. One of the original text languages is a dead language and that is the main area where new discoveries are being made. Of course with the other meanings of words change over time. Just like the word 'gay' is not used these days to mean happy.

Advice can also be unpopular. I had a post removed because I suggested the person was too quick to take offence at things when there was nothing in it. There were six different posts all where things like the bus driver was slow to open the door and they decided it was because the driver wanted to be rude to them. When in reality there are plenty of reasons it could have happened. The person clearly didn't like my suggestion.
 
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Wolves will always try to approach and enter the sheep's pen. We have to be mindful and wary staying steadfast in our true faith and approach every area of our lives with our trust in GOD the heavenly father through his son JESUS rather than by false pretenses and especially of others around us and whom may approach us. Testing the spirit is our defense....you will know them by their fruit" as such.

IF we walk blindly how can we see before us and our path, that is why we require JESUS the son of GOD and the heavenly father GOD to walk in front and put our trust in them for JESUS CHRIST is the way, the TRUTH and the life. We are all in principle here not just for ourselves, but others. We are to maintain a vigilant stance in faith, hope and LOVE...LOVE being the greater COMMANDMENT.

I am more inclined to offer advice rather than accept it. Some people have it and some don't.

Praise be to GOD the heavenly father and his son lord JESUS CHRIST forever>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 
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Who does interpret scripture correctly?
Exactly. The people who think they know it all about what the Bible has to say are the last ones I would take any advice from. Especially the younger adults who really have not experienced life yet and still live with mommy and daddy. Not all advice has to be biblical. It can be given and shared because that person has been through the same thing and has the experience to give out that advice.
Someone else was right when they said a lot of it is just plain common sense. God gave us a brain and some people just need to learn how to use it.
 
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