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Science PROVES the BIBLE is True

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or somehow marry the idea of God using evolution, a cruel and wasteful process based on the survival of the fittest/destruction of the weakest

I don't think you understand what survival of the fittest means. It's about who reproduces more, not who is strong or who is weak. An average Joe who has Parkinson's could have 5 children before they die and a professional athlete could produce no offspring. The average Joe would be considered "more fit" in this instance.

(I can't quite fathom out what God might have had in mind if I were to believe that that is what He has actually done).

Your incredulity doesn't falsify the foundation of biology.
 
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Since your mind is obviously so closed to the truth of Christianity.
If Christianity is so true why do you need faith to believe it? Truth does not require faith because truth stands on it's own,
faith is not a pathway to truth, faith is gullibility.
 
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I think it's time that you presented your evidence that "science proves the bible is true".
I already have lots and lots and lots of times. There is overwhelming evidence to show that the Bible is true. I do not have to show you it is obvious for everyone to see.
 
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I already have lots and lots and lots of times. There is overwhelming evidence to show that the Bible is true. I do not have to show you it is obvious for everyone to see.
Of course it is and don't let anyone tell you different.
 
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Those that reject the possibility of God creating everything "very good" either have to have an alternative faith to fill the gaps in our knowledge (Atheism) or somehow marry the idea of God using evolution, a cruel and wasteful process based on the survival of the fittest/destruction of the weakest, in order to... (I can't quite fathom out what God might have had in mind if I were to believe that that is what He has actually done).
Our notions of what God should consider "very good," our attempts to put ideas into the mind of God are futile and ignorant.
 
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If Christianity is so true why do you need faith to believe it? Truth does not require faith because truth stands on it's own,
faith is not a pathway to truth, faith is gullibility.
Everyone has to have a certain amount of faith as not everything can be proved. You can't prove that someone loves you, but you can make assumptions based on their actions (which can turn out to be totally wrong in the end). You can't prove that something happened in the past, but you can draw reasonable conclusions based on documentary evidence, other physical evidence, etc. So is Christianity true or not? Many clever people have studied the evidence and formed conclusions that it is indeed true. Even some who set out to try to disprove it have come to the opposite conclusion. But of course, it cannot be proven. All one can do is weigh up the evidence and decide for themselves whether they believe it or not. Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life" - you either believe Him or not. Jesus threw down a challenge that we are either for Him or against Him and now everyone has to make their own decision.
 
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I already have lots and lots and lots of times. There is overwhelming evidence to show that the Bible is true. I do not have to show you it is obvious for everyone to see.


Actually you haven't. You do not seem to understand the concept of "evidence". Don't worry, very few creationists do understand that concept. Of course they continually lose debates due to this lack, but then we would not be having this fun if creationists could actually learn.
 
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Everyone has to have a certain amount of faith as not everything can be proved. You can't prove that someone loves you, but you can make assumptions based on their actions (which can turn out to be totally wrong in the end). You can't prove that something happened in the past, but you can draw reasonable conclusions based on documentary evidence, other physical evidence, etc. So is Christianity true or not? Many clever people have studied the evidence and formed conclusions that it is indeed true. Even some who set out to try to disprove it have come to the opposite conclusion. But of course, it cannot be proven. All one can do is weigh up the evidence and decide for themselves whether they believe it or not. Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life" - you either believe Him or not. Jesus threw down a challenge that we are either for Him or against Him and now everyone has to make their own decision.

I have faith.

I have faith my team will win the world series very soon. I have faith I may get lucky and win lotto one day.

In regards to well evidenced reality though, I have trust, because of the amount of evidence.
 
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Everyone has to have a certain amount of faith as not everything can be proved. You can't prove that someone loves you, but you can make assumptions based on their actions (which can turn out to be totally wrong in the end). You can't prove that something happened in the past, but you can draw reasonable conclusions based on documentary evidence, other physical evidence, etc. So is Christianity true or not? Many clever people have studied the evidence and formed conclusions that it is indeed true. Even some who set out to try to disprove it have come to the opposite conclusion. But of course, it cannot be proven. All one can do is weigh up the evidence and decide for themselves whether they believe it or not. Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life" - you either believe Him or not. Jesus threw down a challenge that we are either for Him or against Him and now everyone has to make their own decision.
Religion is the only thing people use 'faith' for, for everything else [that's meaningful] they require evidence, experience is evidence, you don't need faith to fly on a plane because we all know that tens of thousands of flights happen every day without mishap, you might need faith if you flew on a plane made of tissue paper and you knew the pilot was drunk.
 
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I have faith.

I have faith my team will win the world series very soon. I have faith I may get lucky and win lotto one day.

In regards to well evidenced reality though, I have trust, because of the amount of evidence.

And don't forget a the history of success that people have had using the scientific method. Trust is earned, faith is given regardless. We trust the scientific method, and the results that it gives us.
 
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Faith is wishful thinking. It's not a virtue.

"Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile." — Kurt Vonnegut
 
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I have faith.

I have faith my team will win the world series very soon. I have faith I may get lucky and win lotto one day.

In regards to well evidenced reality though, I have trust, because of the amount of evidence.
No doubt human faith, positive thinking and the power of suggestion are all very powerful. But they can not compare with God's divine faith. As the Faith that God puts in us is greater then the human faith that we have apart from God.
 
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No doubt human faith, positive thinking and the power of suggestion are all very powerful. But they can not compare with God's divine faith. As the Faith that God puts in us is greater then the human faith that we have apart from God.

What God?
 
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Ok, demonstrate this God you speak of created me.
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