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LDS Mormonism is an enemy of the Cross and therefore not Christian

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One of the central tenets in Christianity is Christ's atonement on the Cross. In this, Christ redeemed us even though none of us deserve it, plus He claimed victory over sin and death. The Cross is the symbol of the power that lies behind Christianity.

That's why Paul talked about it the way he did:
Galatians 6:14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.
Ephesians 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

And perhaps the most powerful statement:
I Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

Paul also warns of that there are enemies of the Cross:
Phillipians 3:18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:

In the Mormon religion, they are gravely set against the Cross. You will not see a cross in ANY Mormon buildings or publications. When you ask them, they say something like, "Well if someone you loved was shot to death, would you have a symbol of a gun on your necklace or in a picture?" That explanation makes it clear that they have no comprehension of the power of Christ through the Cross. It makes it clear that they are diametrically opposed to what Paul thought and taught about the Cross. It makes it clear that they are clearly against what all the rest of Christianity accepts about the Cross.

Furthermore, while they are careful to shun the Cross of Christ, they do enjoy embellishing their temples and their magical garments with all sorts of occultic and masonic symbols such as the compass and square, beehives, fig leafs, pentagrams and inverted pentagrams, hexagrams, and many other such occultic symbols.

This issue of the Mormons' rejection of the Cross of Christ is one of the clear signs that Mormonism is absolutely not Christian at all. Clearly, the preaching of the cross is foolishness to them.
 

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And not to mention that Jesus himself said "And whoever does not carry his cross and follow Me cannot be My disciple." (Luke 14:27, plus similar references in Matthew 10:38, 16:24, Luke 9:23, etc.).

I find it odd that the lds make a big stink about obeying Jesus' commandments, like baptism, to be temple worthy, but yet can dismiss the cross so easily when the scriptures above make it plain that the cross was important to him.
 
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And not to mention that Jesus himself said "And whoever does not carry his cross and follow Me cannot be My disciple." (Luke 14:27, plus similar references in Matthew 10:38, 16:24, Luke 9:23, etc.).

I find it odd that the lds make a big stink about obeying Jesus' commandments, like baptism, to be temple worthy, but yet can dismiss the cross so easily when the scriptures above make it plain that the cross was important to him.
Even more odd when you consider that they probably enjoy various symbols more than most or all Christian churches. So it's not a problem with symbols, it's JUST the Cross that they have an aversion to. It really is odd.
 
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And not to mention that Jesus himself said "And whoever does not carry his cross and follow Me cannot be My disciple." (Luke 14:27, plus similar references in Matthew 10:38, 16:24, Luke 9:23, etc.).

I find it odd that the lds make a big stink about obeying Jesus' commandments, like baptism, to be temple worthy, but yet can dismiss the cross so easily when the scriptures above make it plain that the cross was important to him.

But wouldn't that be different? Pick up your cross and follow me is quite different to not wanting to see a cross or a crucifix.

Sorry people, but, i do see a lot of mormon bashing on these forums. Ok, its good to discuss issues and try and get them to see the 'Christian' view of the Bible etc. You know, every denomination thinks it is the right denomination.

I dont know enough about mormon beliefs to charge in and attack them so directly. I have read quite a few things, which i have posted before that seem way out there!

It would be great if we could 'ALL' get together and worship God under the same banner! Jesus started 'His' church. 'WE' are his church! All his believers whatever denomination. Yes, some denominations, including the CC have some weird doctrines / practices but it would be great if we could all live together with Christ instead of tugging at the different parts that make up the whole body of the Church.
 
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One of the central tenets in Christianity is Christ's atonement on the Cross. In this, Christ redeemed us even though none of us deserve it, plus He claimed victory over sin and death. The Cross is the symbol of the power that lies behind Christianity.
Or at least it should be..
 
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I did. Hence my comment: Is this entire thread criticizing LDS cultural symbology choices? :rolleyes:...

The Catholic Church has quite a few different symbols that some people say are pagan etc!
 
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The Catholic Church has quite a few different symbols that some people say are pagan etc!
Which is also ridiculous. I may not agree with Catholic beliefs at all, but calling them anything less than Christian is just silly and ignorant.
 
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Which is also ridiculous. I may not agree with Catholic beliefs at all, but calling them anything less than Christian is just silly and ignorant.

Because the symbol had a use in paganism people automatically think that that use is carried over into Catholicism! lol
 
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The Catholic Church has quite a few different symbols that some people say are pagan etc!
The Catholic Church has tons of pagan influence.
 
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But wouldn't that be different? Pick up your cross and follow me is quite different to not wanting to see a cross or a crucifix.

Sorry people, but, i do see a lot of mormon bashing on these forums. Ok, its good to discuss issues and try and get them to see the 'Christian' view of the Bible etc. You know, every denomination thinks it is the right denomination.

I dont know enough about mormon beliefs to charge in and attack them so directly. I have read quite a few things, which i have posted before that seem way out there!

It would be great if we could 'ALL' get together and worship God under the same banner! Jesus started 'His' church. 'WE' are his church! All his believers whatever denomination. Yes, some denominations, including the CC have some weird doctrines / practices but it would be great if we could all live together with Christ instead of tugging at the different parts that make up the whole body of the Church.
It's interesting that you would like "if we could 'ALL' get together and worship God under the same banner" so much that you want to argue and be divisive with other Christians about it.
 
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Then what is the purpose of your OP, skipping the parts which criticize cultural symbology?
I'm talking about a religious symbol, the Cross; it is not a cultural symbol.
 
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Early Christians would use the symbol of a fish ("fishers of men") to signify their Christianity. I wonder why that is absent of the lds symbology, if they are truly trying to "restore" the church to the founding fathers?
 
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It's interesting that you would like "if we could 'ALL' get together and worship God under the same banner" so much that you want to argue and be divisive with other Christians about it.

Explain?
 
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