Question to Protestants regarding certain Catholic beliefs

[Albion]

I think the Lutherans would say as much about their church

I'd probably put them in second place.

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

Did you know that even Saint Augustine and Thomas Aquinas rejected the idea of the Immaculate Conception and the ascension of Mary? Yet the Roman Catholic Church places such a high value on Apostolic Succession. ...as long as their views align with their own.

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Ascension and Assumption/Dormation are two very different things BTW. I have not endorsed or promoted the Immaculate Conception. Neither of these three topics have anything to do with each other; kinda like this:

 

[Light of the East]

The earliest references are to Christ as the ark.

That does not negate the references to Mary as the Ark of the Covenant. I know you wish they did.

 

[Light of the East]

For anyone RC who reads this, I am sorry if what I offends you, I wish I could have avoided it, but facts from a Protestant Theology are still quite serious at odds with the RCC. What ever efforts are made to work together in areas of common interest are very good. We do differ greatly in our Christian Theology, but as humans on this journey to lessen the worlds hunger, and slavery of men and women, and children in all kinds of areas we can and do work together. We must and are required by Christ to love our neighbor, and you are my neighbor.

Yeah, well, I was Protestant for 25 years and very dedicated. (I used to go to parishes at Mass and leave tracts under the windshield wipers).

Then I found out that your "facts" are nothing more than distortions, lies, denial of Christian history and writings, and with some folks (maybe not you personally) outright hatred.

The basic foundation of Protestant theology and soteriology is the idea of "forensic justification." There's only one little problem with it. That's not what Romans teaches in the Greek manuscripts. Even Strong's Concordance backs this up.
Protestant "theologians" played very fast and loose with the truth to push their agenda.

Just saying............

 

[Light of the East]

Hey, it's not so bad. Think of it as the Catholic Church minus the pope, sacred traditions (gradual escalation of legend), and anything else not specifically mentioned in the holy scriptures. Then you will get the same denomination that Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, James, Peter, and Paul were in....the Non-denominational.

Hey, it's not so bad. Think of it as the Catholic Church minus the pope, sacred traditions (gradual escalation of legend), and anything else not specifically mentioned in the holy scriptures. Then you will get the same denomination that Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, James, Peter, and Paul were in....the Non-denominational.

You have been reading the wrong history books. They are making you delusional.

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

Ascension and Assumption/Dormation are two very different things BTW. I have not endorsed or promoted the Immaculate Conception. Neither of these three topics have anything to do with each other; kinda like this:

Hilarious!

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[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

You have been reading the wrong history books. They are making you delusional.

So what christian denomination were the apostles in if I am so delusional? The closest thing would have is Messianic Jew. But what about the Gentiles at the time?

 

[keltoi]

That does not negate the references to Mary as the Ark of the Covenant. I know you wish they did.

Where does the Bible say Mary is the Ark of the Covenant?

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

You have been reading the wrong history books. They are making you delusional.

Btw....prove to myself and everyone here why I am delusional.

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[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

Puppymonkeybaby...lol. I am still chuckling at that video.

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[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

Where does the Bible say Mary is the Ark of the Covenant?

Yes..I agree. Please, anyone, cite verse in the bible which claims Mary to be the "new Ark of the covenant ".

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

I just did a lookup on my logos bible software to see where Mary is the Ark of the covenant. Instead I found this!

Luke 11:27-28 As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, "Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you." He replied, "Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it."

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[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

Crickets. You see, when you actually spend more time reading the bible in its simplicity rather than wasting time making the bible say what you want, things become more clear. I am honestly not expecting a honest response from any catholic as to the explanation of the Luke reference located above.

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[SkyWriting]

Where does the Bible say Mary is the Ark of the Covenant?

It doesn't. The references were made by many early church leaders and even some hymns.

 

[Rick Otto]

Where does the Bible say Mary is the Ark of the Covenant?

It doesn't . It doesn't say Jesus is, either.
I think they are referring to the ECF.

 

[SkyWriting]

Crickets. You see, when you actually spend more time reading the bible in its simplicity rather than wasting time making the bible say what you want, things become more clear. I am honestly not expecting a honest response from any catholic as to the explanation of the Luke reference located above.

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Catholics have a number of sacred sources other than scripture alone.
They are not Bereans.

 

[Rick Otto]

I just did a lookup on my logos bible software to see where Mary is the Ark of the covenant. Instead I found this!

Luke 11:27-28 As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, "Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you." He replied, "Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it."

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It's good to bless Mary.
Too much of a good thing is not a good thing.
That scripture alone returns Mary to a balanced perspective.

 

[keltoi]

It doesn't. The references were made by many early church leaders and even some hymns.

So instead of relying on God's, infallible, Word people who say Mary is the Ark of the Covenant are rely on the very fallible word of some old humans.

 

[keltoi]

Catholics have a number of sacred sources other than scripture alone.

So do Muslims!

 

[keltoi]

It's good to bless Mary.
Too much of a good thing is not a good thing.
That scripture alone returns Mary to a balanced perspective.

It is good to bless those worthy of blessing, Mary is asleep in death, humans blessing her now is futile.