LDS Education of 12 LFS Apostles

[Rescued One]

That does not answer my question.

Who said I had to list the people you want listed? It's my thread.

 

[ToBeLoved]

That does not answer my question.

Why not just post the info of who you think is missing? That's what you should do instead of asking everyone else to read your mind. Take some responsibilty to do it or let it go.

 

[Jane_Doe]

Who said I had to list the people you want listed? It's my thread.

But if you are wanting to survey the educational backgrounds of the top LDS leaders, why leave out the President and his two councilors? (You said you were ex-LDS, so I'm assuming that you know about them, and guessing they were intentionally left out for some reason).

 

[ToBeLoved]

Who said I had to list the people you want listed? It's my thread.

So passive-aggresive.

 

[Rescued One]

This is not the two Quorums of 70 is it?

And there was no office of seventies in the Bible. They have a bogus organization.

 

[Rescued One]

But if you are wanting to survey the educational backgrounds of the top LDS leaders, why leave out the President and his two councilors?

They aren't councilors. I gave the educational backgrounds of the 12 apostles because I wanted to.

 

[Jane_Doe]

Why are you answering for other people? I wasn't asking you.

It's a public forum. And Ironhold had already addressed your question before you even asked it (I'm guessing you didn't bother to read his post?).

 

[Jane_Doe]

They aren't councilors. I gave the educational backgrounds of the 12 apostles because I wanted to.

But why did/do you specifically not want to discuss the educational background of the top 3 LDS leaders?

And yes, there are counselors. This is basic knowledge that any person LDS person knows (and many non-LDS people).

 

[ToBeLoved]

It's a public forum. And Ironhold had already addressed your question before you even asked it (I'm guessing you didn't bother to read his post?).

I'll ask if I have any questions. Thanks.

 

[fatboys]

I'll ask if I have any questions. Thanks.

Things are coming apart for you?

 

[BigDaddy4]

So I see that people would rather squabble over details than admit that BYU is competitive against even Ivy League schools.

Ivy League schools and rank, according to your link:

Brown University (just started in 2014)
Columbia University #6
Cornell University #16
Dartmouth College #14
Harvard University #1
University of Pennsylvania #5
Princeton University (no business school)
Yale University #11

Competitive?? Seriously?? BYU is still 11 spots away from the lowest, established Ivy League business school.

I see that you would rather fabricate stories than deal with facts. Not surprised.

 

[BigDaddy4]

After all, you listen so well when sources are provided....

Post #20 Bloomberg Business Week's 2015 rankings of top business schools.

Full-Time Business School, US:
BYU's Marriott School of Business comes in at #27, with a ranking index score of 74.17 / 100.

Post #33: Top ranked degree program #2: Animation

Animation Career Review lists BYU's animation degree program is #7 compared to all animation schools in the Western US, beating even schools in California. In contrast ,Learn.org ranks it as #3 nationally. Game Designing.org puts it at #9, and Independent Magazine puts it in their top 10 most innovative schools.

So that's four top 10 lists the program is on.

And none of them are the business school, which was the assertion. #27 is not a "top" school.

 

[fatboys]

And there was no office of seventies in the Bible. They have a bogus organization.

There is no rapture or trinity found in the bible

 

[ArmenianJohn]

3. U of U is a public, secular institution. What's more, UU and BYU are rivals, with their rivalry being comparable to that of the University of Texas system and the Texas A&M system. Or, for people who aren't up on colleges, the Jets and the Mets.

As a die hard Mets fan I don't understand there to be a rivalry between the Jets and the Mets - it's not even the same sport. Many Mets fans are actually also Jets fans. I'm thinking perhaps you meant Yankees and Mets?

 

[ArmenianJohn]

There is no rapture or trinity found in the bible

Actually, they are.

 

[fatboys]

Ivy League schools and rank, according to your link:

Brown University (just started in 2014)
Columbia University #6
Cornell University #16
Dartmouth College #14
Harvard University #1
University of Pennsylvania #5
Princeton University (no business school)
Yale University #11

Competitive?? Seriously?? BYU is still 11 spots away from the lowest, established Ivy League business school.

I see that you would rather fabricate stories than deal with facts. Not surprised.

This is so stupid. BYU is a great school and I don't even like the school. This is just a dumb line thought. Who cares what you think of BYU. Thousands attend it every year. Thousands of non Mormons have gone through it and gained their education. Big flipping deal. Grow up b

 

[ArmenianJohn]

I don't know if I understand the purpose of this thread... Phoebe Ann posted the educational backgrounds of the 12 Apostles and from what I see they look pretty good overall. A couple of them have little to no educational background but in religions or churches a formal education isn't always necessary. Most of them went to BYU which is a very good school. Many of them went to other good state and private schools as well, even if it was for just one of their degrees.

There seems to be a theme in this thread as to the role of BYU in their backgrounds but I don't understand how that would be unusual. They're Mormons so they would probably want to go to the top Mormon school. There aren't many Mormon schools to begin with and BYU has high visibility to the secular academic world. It is considered a good school. No doubt they push Mormonism - it is a Mormon school after all... But there are non-Mormons who attend and a BYU degree carries some weight, similar to some of the good state schools.

Anyway, I still think I'm missing the point of this thread... Apologies for that.

 

[Rescued One]

But if you are wanting to survey the educational backgrounds of the top LDS leaders, why leave out the President and his two councilors? (You said you were ex-LDS, so I'm assuming that you know about them, and guessing they were intentionally left out for some reason).

That's pure paranoia on your part! But because you think that, tell us what the reason would be for leaving out three people. I'm curious.

 

[Rescued One]

But why did/do you specifically not want to discuss the educational background of the top 3 LDS leaders?

And yes, there are counselors. This is basic knowledge that any person LDS person knows (and many non-LDS people).

You said they were councilors.

 

[fatboys]

Actually, they are.

No there is not you show me the verses missy