Liberals, why can't someone choose their race?

[civilwarbuff]

Given the uncomfortable fact that far enough back, we're all descended from black Africans...

Theoretically Africans,.....unless you have evidence others don't, don't guess at skin color as if it is known.

 

[Resha Caner]

?? So Rachel Dolezal has no right to state that she is black?

What you don't seem to understand is that if you ever try to draw this strawman to a close, you will have so totally destroyed your credibility that it won't matter.

 

[Z.Mackenzie]

What you don't seem to understand is that if you ever try to draw this strawman to a close, you will have so totally destroyed your credibility that it won't matter.

Im confused. What strawman?

 

[Armoured]

Theoretically Africans,.....unless you have evidence others don't, don't guess at skin color as if it is known.

evidence 1

http://www.livescience.com/23378-african-hunter-gatherers-human-origins.html

evidence 2

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/04/how-europeans-evolved-white-skin

Sorry. I'm not any happier about it than you are.

 

[Resha Caner]

Im confused. What strawman?

At this point I'm only guessing what you're trying to accomplish. If you show my assumption wrong, I'll gladly admit it. But to do so, you must agree to 2 things:
1) Will you actually answer a question when I ask it?
2) Will you promise to answer honestly?

 

[Chris B]

I've decided to identify as "poor" so I can receive government aid. Why can't I do that?

A variant is already being tried in India.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2049567/Rioters-demand-a-lower-caste-status-in-India.html

"Rioters demand lower caste status in India
Thousands of protesters have besieged India’s capital New Delhi demanding their caste status be reduced to secure government benefits."

Status is one thing, money another, it seems.

 

[Z.Mackenzie]

At this point I'm only guessing what you're trying to accomplish. If you show my assumption wrong, I'll gladly admit it. But to do so, you must agree to 2 things:
1) Will you actually answer a question when I ask it?
2) Will you promise to answer honestly?

But I thought I already answered your questions ?

 

[Resha Caner]

But I thought I already answered your questions ?

You didn't. An answer requires a statement, not another question. Further, we're to the point where I need to ask for simple "yes" or "no" answers. So, go back to post #45 and give me a "yes" or "no" to the 2 questions.

 

[Z.Mackenzie]

You didn't. An answer requires a statement, not another question. Further, we're to the point where I need to ask for simple "yes" or "no" answers. So, go back to post #45 and give me a "yes" or "no" to the 2 questions.

Again i already answered your questions.

I stated that Rachel Dolezal is a black woman because she said so. And i stated that she is identifying with a race.
What more? Im honestly confused right now.

 

[Resha Caner]

Again i already answered your questions.

I stated that Rachel Dolezal is a black woman because she said so. And i stated that she is identifying with a race.
What more? Im honestly confused right now.

Post #45, questions 1) & 2) Yes or no?

It's that simple. Answer those questions.

 

[civilwarbuff]

evidence 1

http://www.livescience.com/23378-african-hunter-gatherers-human-origins.html

evidence 2

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/04/how-europeans-evolved-white-skin

Sorry. I'm not any happier about it than you are.

Evidence, such as remains from someone 100-200,000 years ago.....not extrapolted theories....

Sorry. I'm not any happier about it than you are.
Not sure what this means....

 

[Z.Mackenzie]

You didn't. An answer requires a statement, not another question. Further, we're to the point where I need to ask for simple "yes" or "no" answers. So, go back to post #45 and give me a "yes" or "no" to the 2 questions.

Yes

 

[Armoured]

Evidence, such as remains from someone 100-200,000 years ago.....not extrapolted theories....

Sorry. I'm not any happier about it than you are.
Not sure what this means....

Read the whole articles. They cover when the "whiteness" mutation first occurred.

 

[civilwarbuff]

At this point I'm only guessing what you're trying to accomplish. If you show my assumption wrong, I'll gladly admit it. But to do so, you must agree to 2 things:
1) Will you actually answer a question when I ask it?
2) Will you promise to answer honestly?

You don't want to push that for the simple reason around here this is an atheistic tactic; get people to answer yes/no in order to force them down a particular road. I would not answer your questions yes/no either seeing a potential trap.

 

[civilwarbuff]

Read the whole articles. They cover when the "whiteness" mutation first occurred.

I did, u

Read the whole articles. They cover when the "whiteness" mutation first occurred.

Oh yeah, the ability to digest lactose....that one is a certainty.....That is why white skin developed
"First, the scientists confirmed an earlier report that the hunter-gatherers in Europe could not digest the sugars in milk 8000 years ago, according to a poster. They also noted an interesting twist: The first farmers also couldn’t digest milk. The farmers who came from the Near East about 7800 years ago and the Yamnaya pastoralists who came from the steppes 4800 years ago lacked the version of the LCT gene that allows adults to digest sugars in milk. It wasn’t until about 4300 years ago that lactose tolerance swept through Europe."
What, did they find some 8000 year old teenage diary that said "Today, I drank milk and turned white". Gimme a break.

 

[Armoured]

I did, u

Oh yeah, the ability to digest lactose....that one is a certainty.....That is why white skin developed
"First, the scientists confirmed an earlier report that the hunter-gatherers in Europe could not digest the sugars in milk 8000 years ago, according to a poster. They also noted an interesting twist: The first farmers also couldn’t digest milk. The farmers who came from the Near East about 7800 years ago and the Yamnaya pastoralists who came from the steppes 4800 years ago lacked the version of the LCT gene that allows adults to digest sugars in milk. It wasn’t until about 4300 years ago that lactose tolerance swept through Europe."
What, did they find some 8000 year old teenage diary that said "Today, I drank milk and turned white". Gimme a break.

Whatever. You asked for evidence, I gave it to you. If the fact that our earliest ancestors was black troubles you so much, deny the science. No skin of my nose.

 

[Armoured]

You don't want to push that for the simple reason around here this is an atheistic tactic; get people to answer yes/no in order to force them down a particular road. I would not answer your questions yes/no either seeing a potential trap.

If you have faith in your convictions, you shouldn't expect to be trappable in the first place.

 

[Mountain_Girl406]

So if a slave simply told the owners that he identified as white, he would have been released? Emmitt Till could have just identified as white and his murderers would have had no issue with him?

 

[Mountain_Girl406]

dp

 

[Resha Caner]

Yes

Thank you.

... Rachel Dolezal is a black woman because she said so.

Now we can back up to the above statement. Since you were the one who said it, I assume you still subscribe to this statement. Yes or no?