Origin of God's Morality.

[DogmaHunter]

No, because there's no proof of Thor.

Haaa, so you DO agree that one can not simply "choose" to believe anything.
Finally. So, was it really necessary to drag this out for so many posts?

 

[DogmaHunter]

By numbers, probably, but not by percentage of the population...yeah, so much faith in a God who demands that they kill themselves...

Well, you did state that you find it impressive or meaningfull that christians gave their lives for their beliefs.

I'm just saying that followers of other religions, do that too.

Really? You said "Only the deeds that are to your pleasing are evidence of your religion"... I don't claim that my 'religion' is perfect. It's a human institution, and people have done horrible things. But those who do those things aren't the ones we look up to, as you seem to be trying to suggest. Being Christian and acting Christian is the norm. Those who don't act Christian have something to answer for. Of course, if you're not Christian, the standard is quite lower...

So, then... it doesn't actually matter that there are christians who died for their beliefs...

 

[DogmaHunter]

Baloney. The stories have evidence, the problem is you, who don't accept the evidence.

You stated in the previous post that the stories themselves were the evidence.
So, I guess your backtracking?

 

[Root of Jesse]

In my assessment, the case presented thus far is poor and unconvincing.


To be charitable, I'll simply assume that you're playing dumb and that you aren't in fact oblivious to the nature of religions other than your own.

You know what happens when you assume, I assume...I find nothing supernatural in any other religion. Lots of spirituality, no supernatural.

 

[Root of Jesse]

Off course.

You're flat out telling me that I must "believe or else..."

I didn't say that. You infer that.

 

[Root of Jesse]

Still all besides the point.

You seem to have problems with focussing on the point.



No. I gave an example to illustrate that one cannot simply "choose" to believe things of which one is not convinced.

It's actually then you that took it off course. WAAAAY off course.

I'm still trying to get back to the point, but your defense mechanisms seem to not allow it.

You gave an example of someone who is real to illustrate that one cannotsimply 'choose' to believe things of which one is not convinced?

I don't need to explain myself to you.
If you only wish to talk to christians, then I invite you to visit the 80% of this forum where I am not allowed to post.

I don't really care. I just think it's funny. Atheists coming to a Christian board to argue. ROTFL.

 

[Root of Jesse]

Well, you did state that you find it impressive or meaningfull that christians gave their lives for their beliefs.

I'm just saying that followers of other religions, do that too.

and I'm just saying it's a totally different mindset.

So, then... it doesn't actually matter that there are christians who died for their beliefs...

What matters is that the faith still grows undetered.

 

[Root of Jesse]

You stated in the previous post that the stories themselves were the evidence.

Yes, they are. People who don't believe them are their own problem.

So, I guess your backtracking?

Not at all.

 

[Root of Jesse]

Haaa, so you DO agree that one can not simply "choose" to believe anything.
Finally. So, was it really necessary to drag this out for so many posts?

I can prove God exists, to someone who's sincerely interested. We can also prove that Thor didn't. People choose to believe in the non-existent all the time. Man-caused Global Warming, for example. Darwinian evolution for another.

 

[civilwarbuff]

You gave an example of someone who is real to illustrate that one cannotsimply 'choose' to believe things of which one is not convinced?

I don't really care. I just think it's funny. Atheists coming to a Christian board to argue. ROTFL.

But they all agree with themselves.....after they say "There is no God" they got nothing else to offer.....their forums must be pretty dull......

 

[Hoghead1]

I can prove God exists, to someone who's sincerely interested. We can also prove that Thor didn't. People choose to believe in the non-existent all the time. Man-caused Global Warming, for example. Darwinian evolution for another.

Well, OK then. Let's hear your proofs. I recommend starting with the ontological argument, but it's up to you.

 

[Root of Jesse]

Well, OK then. Let's hear your proofs. I recommend starting with the ontological argument, but it's up to you.

Prove that you're sincerely interested. I'll wait, but I won't hold my breath.

 

[Davian]

I have lots of justification, all of which is very rational.

The same can be said for a belief in a flat Earth that hangs motionless in space, while the cosmos rotates around it.

Rotating Stars

• Davian
• Dec 2, 2013

Australian Astronomical Observatory

In fact, I believe it's IRrational not to believe it.

Indeed. By what sorcery can people live on the underside of a sphere without falling off into space?

 

[civilwarbuff]

The same can be said for a belief in a flat Earth that hangs motionless in space, while the cosmos rotates around it.

Rotating Stars

• Davian
• Dec 2, 2013

Australian Astronomical Observatory

Indeed. By what sorcery can people live on the underside of a sphere without falling off into space?

Same can be said that mass and energy simply sprung into existence all by itself to self create the universe.....

 

[Davian]

No, because there's no proof of Thor.

What do you mean, no proof? He has a day of the week named after him! Do you think our calendar nomenclature is built on myth?

 

[Davian]

As I posted somewhere else his tactic is to say "gimme evidence, not good enuff, gimme evidence, not good enuff" ad nauseam in the hopes of wearing people down.

Or, in hopes of having the person making the truth claims realizing that they cannot actually substantiate the veracity of their claims.

He does not like that same tactic when used on him.....

It would depend on the context. Did you deliver on the evidence and then ask, or did you fail to deliver and your tactic is simply a distraction?

Look! A Distraction!

• Davian
• Mar 14, 2016

I guess as a non-believer he does not understand when you discuss theology you use theological info and statements.

Sure, but then all you end up with is theology. If you are positing your theology as reality, then we step up to the tools used to explore reality.

 

[Davian]

Same can be said that mass and energy simply sprung into existence all by itself to self create the universe.....

That may be, but I cannot identify what theory you are attempting to describe there.

 

[Davian]

I can prove God exists, to someone who's sincerely interested.

Can we apply this thinking to other subjects?

"Cold fusion could have been demonstrated as real, if only those skeptical of it were sincerely interesed in seeing it work, and then they could finally deliver on that promise of clean and affordable energy..."

We can also prove that Thor didn't. People choose to believe in the non-existent all the time. Man-caused Global Warming, for example. Darwinian evolution for another.

Cool. Can you do all three here, or will this be a new thread?

I'll bring popcorn.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

I don't really care. I just think it's funny. Atheists coming to a Christian board to argue. ROTFL.

Almost as funny as your inept apologetics.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Same can be said that mass and energy simply sprung into existence all by itself to self create the universe.....

Huh? You haven't conversed with many atheists, have you?