There is no evidence againts the Theory of Evolution.

[joshua 1 9]

Based on what evidence?

DNA research and evidence. Although crunching the numbers and doing the math showed the theory to be wrong from the very beginning.

 

[Loudmouth]

DNA research and evidence.

References?

Although crunching the numbers and doing the math showed the theory to be wrong from the very beginning.

What numbers?

 

[Hoghead1]

Well, Joshua 19, to be fair about it, you need to consider the possibility that you, too, are seeking a false sense of security and power, so that your defense mechanism have kicked in and led you to believe you know the material far better than any of the scientists.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Darwin got natural selection right.

Now, answer my question.

http://news.discovery.com/earth/how-much-did-darwin-get-wrong.htm

 

[Loudmouth]

http://news.discovery.com/earth/how-much-did-darwin-get-wrong.htm

And?

 

[joshua 1 9]

Well, Joshua 19, to be fair about it, you need to consider the possibility that you, too, are seeking a false sense of security and power, so that your defense mechanism have kicked in and led you to believe you know the material far better than any of the scientists.

Yep so is the human experience. Like I said, my dad served the community as a doctor for over 50 years. A lot of what he sold was exactly that: a sense of safety and security that everything is going to be all right. This is going to run it's course and your going to be just fine. Or we can remove that old organ because evolution has run it's course and it is obsolete now and you don't need it anymore. I was suppose to be a doctor and he started training me when I was 3 years old. He was exp proud of his double knotted stitch, each stitch was independent so if one broke it would be the only one to break. Also you have to use the smallest stitch you can because that will leave less of a scar. Now a days they just staple them up and their are done with it. Things have changed. They are in a lot more of a hurry now then they use to be.

 

[joshua 1 9]

And?

Any I rest my case it is all there in the artical and this is why we have neo Darwinism and post neo Darwinism. For one thing Gould with punctuated equilibrium showed gradualism to be wrong. If you do not want to admit it and you want to cling to your security blanket then go right ahead. Enjoy yourself.

 

[Extraneous]

Well, Joshua 19, to be fair about it, you need to consider the possibility that you, too, are seeking a false sense of security and power, so that your defense mechanism have kicked in and led you to believe you know the material far better than any of the scientists.

Fortunately for me, my faith isn't built on science but Christ alone. His teaching is my philosophy, and his promise my hope. I don't much care what the world does. My foundation is solid.

 

[Hoghead1]

Joshua, 19, how hard would it be for you to edit your posts and pay better attention to spelling and sentence structure? Posts such as 27 cause me to seriously question your ability to communicate properly.

 

[joshua 1 9]

It isn't a religious separation. Evolution is a fully worked out, and evidenced, theory.

Evolution is a long, long, long way from being fully worked out. They use to say that science knows 3% of all there is to know. Now with the progress we have made and the information explosion they say science knows 4% of all there is to know.

Note, I am not anti evoluion. But I take this side of the debate to keep the discussion going. So do not think that because I choose to argue against the theory that I reject it.

 

[Hoghead1]

OK, Extraneous, but the truth of the matter is that your faith is based on your interpretation, the picture your imagination painted of Christ. So how can you be sure it is at all correct?

 

[joshua 1 9]

Joshua, 19, how hard would it be for you to edit your posts and pay better attention to spelling and sentence structure? Posts such as 27 cause me to seriously question your ability to communicate properly.

I do have a learning disability so I would say it would be impossible. It was diagnosed back in the summer of 1960 at the university. Clearly God should be using someone way more qualified then me but that is not the way God does things.

God has chosen the foolish things of the world to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to shame the things which are strong, and the base things of the world and the despised God has chosen, the things that are not, so that He may nullify the things that are,…1 cor 1:27

I did write that post very fast because it is evolutionists that talk about how Darwin got it wrong, so I gave you the key words so you could do a google search and study the issue if you were interested.

 

[pshun2404]

If there was it would mean the ToE was wrong.

Please show actual evidence for abiogenesis or one creature actually becoming another that is not just historical narrative or hypothesis based interpretation? I assure you I have studied this for many decades and was a vehement agnostic for 3 decades and there is none, but I am sure you accept these things, however you fall for the appeal to authority and the argumentum ad populum for support not real demonstrable facts.

 

[Extraneous]

OK, Extraneous, but the truth of the matter is that your faith is based on your interpretation, the picture your imagination painted of Christ. So how can you be sure it is at all correct?

I don't need signs and wonders, nor ToE, to prove Christ. My heart compels me to follow. I dont need to prove faith, because faith is the substance of things hoped for, and evidence of things not seen. Its God given, and i cant manufacture it. God will judge each person, its he who will judge, not men.

 

[Loudmouth]

Any I rest my case it is all there in the artical

"In reality what they're doing, and what this latest study has done, is point out that Darwin's thoughts on evolution were profound and far-reaching, and while they almost invariably remain true to this day — surprise! — in 150 years, scientists have managed to discover a few new things about how evolution works."
http://news.discovery.com/earth/how-much-did-darwin-get-wrong.htm

You agree that Darwin's thoughts on evolution have been invariably true to this day?

For one thing Gould with punctuated equilibrium showed gradualism to be wrong.

Darwin also proposed Punctuated Equilibria.

"Only a small portion of the world has been geologically explored. Only organic beings of certain classes can be preserved in a fossil condition, at least in any great number. Widely ranging species vary most, and varieties are often at first local, -- both causes rendering the discovery of intermediate links less likely. Local varieties will not spread into other and distant regions until they are considerably modified and improved; and when they do spread, if discovered in a geological formation, they will appear as if suddenly created there, and will be simply classed as new species." [Charles Darwin, Origin of Species 1st Edition 1859, p.439]

 

[Loudmouth]

Please show actual evidence for abiogenesis . . .

The topic of this thread is evolution, not abiogenesis.

or one creature actually becoming another that is not just historical narrative or hypothesis based interpretation?

That happens with every birth.

 

[Hoghead1]

OK, thanks for sharing that, Joshua 19. I'll be careful to bear that in mind.

 

[Hoghead1]

Extraneous, I did not ask you to prove Christ. Please pay more attention to my posts. What I asked about is how you can be sure the picture of Christ you have in your imagination fits the real thing.

 

[joshua 1 9]

You agree that Darwin's thoughts on evolution have been invariably true to this day?

The answer is yes but I consider Darwin to be lazy because he should have done what Charles Lyell did to reconcile his faith with his science. Over the years others have done that for him. He did get the ball rolling and did get people thinking. All things considered you can not blame him for wanting to avoid some of the controversy.

 

[Extraneous]

Extraneous, I did not ask you to prove Christ. Please pay more attention to my posts. What I asked about is how you can be sure the picture of Christ you have in your imagination fits the real thing.

I already answered that.