Galatians 3: Under The Law?

[Cribstyl]

Suscribing..

 

[Cribstyl]

Guess what Bob, the 10 Commandments still bring death... if you disobey them. They are life if you obey them through the Grace of the Spirit.

Yes you're right, scriptures proves that the law says: It's through obeying the law a person have life. You're ignoring the lessons being taught; about how "faith" in Jesus makes us righteous and NOT by observing the law.
Gal 3:10 But those who depend on the law to make them right with God are under his curse, for the Scriptures say, “Cursed is everyone who does not observe and obey all the commands that are written in God’s Book of the Law.”
Gal 3:11 So it is clear that no one can be made right with God by trying to keep the law. For the Scriptures say, “It is through faith that a righteous person has life.”
Gal 3:12 This way of faith is very different from the way of law, which says, “It is through obeying the law that a person has life.”

So, fact is ECR, the law does bring death.

 

[Cribstyl]

Why are you quoting NT when the subject at hand is OT...

Levitcus 26 gives the blessing and curses for obey God's commandments and statutes... if you read the blessings, you will see that they did follow and obey God to receive of the blessings promised... but when they forsook God and started worshipping other idols without repentance, they were punished as is recorded in the exile, the destruction of the temple in 70 AD and beyond to our day.

Probably because the bible has both the OT and the NT..... And Gentiles are not under the covenant given through Moses.
So in the OT when God promised to give a New Covenant that was not given to the fathers, we can expect to find commandments from God to live by in the NT.

 

[disciple1]

You have no clue what the Sabbath is about , do you? Sad...

James chapter 2 verse 10
If anyone keeps the whole law yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it...
That is all law, and we all sin, I once thought like you. But look at these verses that you don't know or understand at this point.
John chapter 8 verses 31,32
To the jews who believed him jesus said if you hold to my teaching you are really my disciples and you shall know the truth and the truth will set you free.
That's free from law and you love the more you love the greater your reward.
I notice you've posted a lot maybe you should stop posting and start studying I've studied 34 years, if that's your picture on your posts you couldn't have studied much.
You're a slave to sin.
John chapter 8 verses 31,32
To the jews who believed him jesus said if you hold to my teaching you are really my disciples and you shall know the truth and the truth will set you free.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

It's through obeying the law a person have life. You're ignoring the lessons being taught; about how "faith" in Jesus makes us righteous and NOT by observing the law.

Actually, through faith in Jesus, we are able to observe the Law. Doesn't the passage say that through Christ ALL things are possible? Why not obedience to the Law Crib? Or do you qualify Jesus' statement to only mean things you agree with?

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Probably because the bible has both the OT and the NT..... And Gentiles are not under the covenant given through Moses.
So in the OT when God promised to give a New Covenant that was not given to the fathers, we can expect to find commandments from God to live by in the NT.

What would have happened if the Israelites had of continued to obey Crib? Do you think God would have broken His promise?

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

James chapter 2 verse 10
If anyone keeps the whole law yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it...
That is all law, and we all sin, I once thought like you. But look at these verses that you don't know or understand at this point.
John chapter 8 verses 31,32
To the jews who believed him jesus said if you hold to my teaching you are really my disciples and you shall know the truth and the truth will set you free.
That's free from law and you love the more you love the greater your reward.
I notice you've posted a lot maybe you should stop posting and start studying I've studied 34 years, if that's your picture on your posts you couldn't have studied much.
You're a slave to sin.
John chapter 8 verses 31,32
To the jews who believed him jesus said if you hold to my teaching you are really my disciples and you shall know the truth and the truth will set you free.

I don't claim to be able to do anything, so your contentions that I am able to keep the Law are flawed... but, in Christ I can do all things!

 

[Cribstyl]

Actually, through faith in Jesus, we are able to observe the Law.

Cant make up you're own scriptures friend. We learn; that through faith, we receive grace.

Doesn't the passage say that through Christ ALL things are possible?

Say what? Post any scripture that says; "Through Christ ALL things are possible?" (concede if you cant ECR).

Why not obedience to the Law Crib?

The fact the scriptures teaches "faith without the law" is why ECR. (hello??)
Rom 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Or do you qualify Jesus' statement to only mean things you agree with?

If Jesus never said that, you've sure got some "splainin to do". So the fact is friend, true doctrine teaches 'faith without the law'. This is an elementary doctrinal fact you're contradicting by misquoting Jesus. (not good news bro)

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Cant make up you're own scriptures friend. We learn; that through faith, we receive grace. Say what? Post any scripture that says; "Through Christ ALL things are possible?" (concede if you cant ECR).

Matthew 19:26
But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.


Mark 9:23
Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.


Mark 10:27
And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.

The fact the scriptures teaches "faith without the law" is why ECR. (hello??)
Rom 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
If Jesus never said that, you've sure got some "splainin to do". So the fact is friend, true doctrine teaches 'faith without the law'. This is an elementary doctrinal fact you're contradicting by misquoting Jesus. (not good news bro)

When did I ever say I was justified by the Law? I am justified through Christ's atoning blood... because of this, I am obedient to His Commands. And through His Grace, I am able.

You haven't changed, have you Crib... still mischaracterizing people on here that don't see as you do... does this make Jesus smile? Me thinks not...

 

[Cribstyl]

What would have happened if the Israelites had of continued to obey Crib? Do you think God would have broken His promise?

It's sad to see that your questions leads to more questions and does not result in any scriptural truth.
Why would Jesus need to come if even just one man could be righteous by the law?
Psa 14:2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.
Psa 14:3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Scripture teaches that God so loved the world....and that Christ came because ALL have/will sin. And that No one will ever be found righteous in His sight by the law. (Ask for scripture)

Your questions games appeared designed to steer folks away from the doctrine of faith.

The fact you will also confuse is: Jesus fulfilled the law by His death for all sinners. Once the price was paid for all sinners, the law became powerless to condemn to death. (Ask for scriptures if needed)

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

It's sad to see that your questions leads to more questions and does not result in any scriptural truth.
Why would Jesus need to come if even just one man could be righteous by the law?
Psa 14:2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.
Psa 14:3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Scripture teaches that God so loved the world....and that Christ came because ALL have/will sin. And that No one will ever be found righteous in His sight by the law. (Ask for scripture)

Your questions games appeared designed to steer folks away from the doctrine of faith.

The fact you will also confuse is: Jesus fulfilled the law by His death for all sinners. Once the price was paid for all sinners, the law became powerless to condemn to death. (Ask for scriptures if needed)

No, it's just a question Crib... I understand that you can't answer it, I'm used to that by you.

Btw, Jesus came to make the final sacrifice for sin through His blood... that through His blood we are justified and through faith and Grace we are Sanctified. Our obedience to Him is just a natural outpouring of the fruits of His Spirit in us.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Oh, Crib, you asked me to concede if I couldn't find the verse you said didn't exist... will you now concede you were wrong?

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

It's sad to see that your questions leads to more questions and does not result in any scriptural truth.
Why would Jesus need to come if even just one man could be righteous by the law?
Psa 14:2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.
Psa 14:3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Scripture teaches that God so loved the world....and that Christ came because ALL have/will sin. And that No one will ever be found righteous in His sight by the law. (Ask for scripture)

Your questions games appeared designed to steer folks away from the doctrine of faith.

The fact you will also confuse is: Jesus fulfilled the law by His death for all sinners. Once the price was paid for all sinners, the law became powerless to condemn to death. (Ask for scriptures if needed)

Jesus fulfilled the requirements for atonement from sin... He came to establish the Law.

Romans 3:31
Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

 

[Cribstyl]

Matthew 19:26
But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

Are you playing a word game, because obedience to the law is just spinderella??? Here, Jesus is talking about miracle being impossible for men, but "FOR GOD" all thing are possible. Why would you attach people being obedience to the law to this context?

Mark 9:23
Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.

Is this not another story about miraculous power of God to heal? Why would you attach obedience to the law?

Mark 10:27
And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.

Is this not the story about how it's hard for rich man to be saved? Doesn't the previous text show that even keeping the law does not get you into the kingdom of God?

When did I ever say I was justified by the Law? I am justified through Christ's atoning blood... because of this, I am obedient to His Commands. And through His Grace, I am able.

You haven't changed, have you Crib... still mischaracterizing people on here that don't see as you do... does this make Jesus smile? Me thinks not...

You're the same guy too, I think I got you pegged correctly.

 

[Cribstyl]

Oh, Crib, you asked me to concede if I couldn't find the verse you said didn't exist... will you now concede you were wrong?

Your Q game was these 3questions and a bold statement : Actually, through faith in Jesus, we are able to observe the Law.
Doesn't the passage say that through Christ ALL things are possible?
Why not obedience to the Law Crib?
Or do you qualify Jesus' statement to only mean things you agree with?

All 3 texts you posted taught that ALL things are possible for God to accomplish, not that all things are possible for man to accomplish (include keeping the law).
By you posting those 3 text, you exposed that those scriptures had no relationship to obedience to the law.

Using keywords "Through God and possible" or "through Christ and possible" there are no reference. So your statement IN RED above is false.

The most relevant scripture I thought you would post is this;
Phl 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

This text also speaks of going through all kinds of situations.... not what you're trying to use it for.

Context always trumps agenda dude..... May God help both of us to see more clearly.

 

[disciple1]

Actually, through faith in Jesus, we are able to observe the Law. Doesn't the passage say that through Christ ALL things are possible? Why not obedience to the Law Crib? Or do you qualify Jesus' statement to only mean things you agree with?

Galatians chapter 5 verse 4
You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Your Q game was these 3questions and a bold statement : Actually, through faith in Jesus, we are able to observe the Law.
Doesn't the passage say that through Christ ALL things are possible?
Why not obedience to the Law Crib?
Or do you qualify Jesus' statement to only mean things you agree with?

All 3 texts you posted taught that ALL things are possible for God to accomplish, not that all things are possible for man to accomplish (include keeping the law).
By you posting those 3 text, you exposed that those scriptures had no relationship to obedience to the law.

Using keywords "Through God and possible" or "through Christ and possible" there are no reference. So your statement IN RED above is false.

The most relevant scripture I thought you would post is this;
Phl 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

This text also speaks of going through all kinds of situations.... not what you're trying to use it for.

Context always trumps agenda dude..... May God help both of us to see more clearly.

So God cannot accomplish this in us if we surrender to Him? My God is that powerful... it's His Law after all.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Galatians chapter 5 verse 4
You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.

Why do you continue to mischaracterize those of us that love God enough to surrender in obedience to Him.. show me one quote from myself (or any other Sabbath keeper on here, if that helps) that claims they are justified by the Law... you, Crib and others play this game of mud slinging hoping that you can trip us up or make us look foolish to others... God sees the mud on your hands.

 

[Cribstyl]

So God cannot accomplish this in us if we surrender to Him? My God is that powerful... it's His Law after all.

#1. You're changing the subject and have fail to prove your argument. I disengage from your Question games.
Good luck with keeping the law and the Q game.

 

[bugkiller]

Actually, through faith in Jesus, we are able to observe the Law. Doesn't the passage say that through Christ ALL things are possible? Why not obedience to the Law Crib? Or do you qualify Jesus' statement to only mean things you agree with?

Maybe because the OT says its not possible. But you misquote the Bible about the issue you raise.

bugkiller