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Why do Christians have trouble with accepting Evolution?

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You are not being accurate or fair here at all, KW. The issue here isn't the Bible or God or science. The issue is your understanding , your interpretation. Everyone views Scripture through a lens. I would bet you are viewing Scripture through the lens of fundamentalist Christianity, which is an anti-intellectual approach. That means what you see of Scripture and what you say about Scripture is very much colored by your theology or ideology. The question then is, How rational and solid is fundamentalist theology? On my end, I reject much of it, because it find it to be making too many irrational assumptions about God and the Bible. Here are a few. Either Scripture is inerrant or it's all errant and therefore worthless. Either-or thinking is unrealistic. Reality is generally a shade of grey. God does not change and so neither do we or anything else in the universe, most especially the species. Irrational. The idea of a wholly immutable God comes from Hellenic philosophy, not Scripture, and can be shown to be irrational in the first place. Here's another. The Bible has to be an accurate scientific witness. Irrational. This view automatically assumes that God intended Scripture to be a scientific witness. However, that assumption can be seriously questioned. It is perfectly rational to assume that God did not intend Scripture to be a scientific witness. As Calvin once said, God did not intend to teach us astronomy. Here's yet another. One's religious beliefs should be accepted without question and are the sole criterion upon which to judge the validity of all scientific work and research. Irrational. The purpose of science to test out your beliefs, however sacred they may be. There is only one God and so only one true church and it so happens it's ours and every other Christian is then dead wrong. Irrational. Bigotry at its highest. The Bible is subject to many interpretations in Christianity. The fundamentalist approach is just one. There are other, richer ones I and others would like to pursue. The Christian religion is monolithic, so there is just one way to be a Christian. Irrational. Christianity represents a rich plurality of diverse belief systems. That's great. That means we have freedom. If one approach doesn't work, you can try another. Not all Christians are on the right, not should be on the right. I found right-wing Christianity may certainly work for some, but it did not even begin to meet my emotional, spiritual, and intellectual needs.
 
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Yes, EastCoast, but the fact of the matter is that the world is continually changing, and the Bible also honors an ever-changing world. Also, yes, the Bible has changed. There was the Septuagint and there was the Masoretic texts, for example. There is then the matter of the Apocrypha. This was initially in Protestant Bibles, then removed. The Johannie Comma is definitely a much later addition to the Bible. The ending of Mark is a later addition. If teh Dead Sea Scrolls are any indication, the Book of Samuel got shorter and Goliath got much taller. Martin Luther believed that James was a "straw epistle" and put it in a special appendix, separate from the rest of the Bible. He also said that Ester should be thrown in the river. I'm surprised he included it in his Bible.
 
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Not all Christians believe the Creation story. I believe in Evolution.

how many other places do you choose man-made-fiction to the Bible?

World wide flood?

Virgin birth?

Bodily resurrection and ascension of Christ into heaven?

Miracles of the Bible?
 
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how many other places do you choose man-made-fiction to the Bible?

World wide flood?

Virgin birth?

Bodily resurrection and ascension of Christ into heaven?

Miracles of the Bible?
My question to you now is this:

Why does it matter so much that I believe the same as you or others?

I'm not trying to be rude or start an argument I am curious as to why this matters so much.
You do not know all that I believe but honestly it should not matter that much as there are more pressing things going on in the world.
 
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You should also remember, Lords man, that Darwin believed in God and was about to become an ordained minister before he left on the Beagle. You should also remember that the Bible presents a flat earth and a geocentric view of the universe. That was one of stumbling blocks Galileo had. What he said, still holds today. The Bible tells you how to go to Heaven, but science tells you how the Heavens run. The mistake you are making is that you are automatically assuming that God and the biblical writers intended the Bible to be a scientific geophysical witness. But who says that is so? I think it is equally, if not more plausible that God did not intend the Bible to be scientific witness. As Calvin said, God did not intend to give us an astronomy lesson.
 
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The way, Extraneous, teh scientists came upon with the concept of evolution was based on extensive and painstaking investigations of nature. Read AR Wallace some time. That's why evolution became accepted into the scientific community. They had the hard data backing it. Mater of fact, evolution is probably the best supported theory in modern science.
 
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That isn't accurate, Extraneous. He is simply failing to give your image or model of God glory. So, too, do I. It comes from Hellenic philosophy and rests on the dubious assumption that God cannot change. Also, it rests on the unchecked imaginations of fundamentalist Christians, who believe they can read the mind of God and so know that he intended Scripture to be an accurate geophysical witness. Now, the fundies cannot read God's mind and neither can anyone else either. However, it is equally plausible that God did not intend Scripture to be a scientific witness.
 
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Your comments about your fellow Christians, Extraneous, are totally erroneous. The problem I have with your posts is that you yourself are presenting nothing but wordily wisdom. You are simply going on what fundamentalistic Christianity has to say. OK, fine. You have the right to be a fundamentalist. However, fundamentalism is a human-made faith stemming from the teachings of certain human church fathers. Whether it truly represents God or the Bible is up for grabs.
 
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Christianity, Hier, is not a monolithic religion, not just one way. It is a rich plurality of divergent belief systems. So not all Christians are gong to share your views, Hier, but that doesn't mean they are lousily Christians or anything of the like. In that you continually dump on their character, it would appear to me you are extremely intolerant and can't stand to have any of your human-made dogmas challenged.
 
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Christianity, Hier, is not a monolithic religion, not just one way. It is a rich plurality of divergent belief systems. So not all Christians are gong to share your views, Hier, but that doesn't mean they are lousily Christians or anything of the like. In that you continually dump on their character, it would appear to me you are extremely intolerant and can't stand to have any of your human-made dogmas challenged.
Frankly, i think that it is you who is full of nonsense.
Most things you present a struth do not make sense.
You mix ideas to your liking and you end up with an inconsistent mess.
 
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All I am giving you here, Hier, are the facts of the matter. You don't have to believe them if you don't want to, but that doesn't alert the fact they are facts. If you can't accept the plurality of Christianity, that's your p[problem. Many others of us can and rejoice in it.
 
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