Why do Christians have trouble with accepting Evolution?

[SteveB28]

The real world? You have blinded yourself because you refuse to give God glory. How can you possibly interpret data correctly, which pertains to the mystery of mans origin?

By using a scientific method that has shown itself to be extremely effective in increasing our knowledge of our world.

 

[Hieronymus]

I am well aware, Extraneous, that anyone can post here.

Even you can.

 

[Hieronymus]

By using a scientific method that has shown itself to be extremely effective in increasing our knowledge of our world.

Exactly.
And that's how evolution fails...
It is not science, there is no evidence for Darwin's idea.

 

[Extraneous]

By using a scientific method that has shown itself to be extremely effective in increasing our knowledge of our world.

Yes, but that doesn't mean that its flawless. I believe that ToE is a false doctrine created by scientists who misinterpret data, just as some Christians misinterpret scripture and create their false doctrines.

 

[Hieronymus]

I think it is important to note that "image of God" does not reference our actual physical body.

Ah, you're an expert now...
I suggest you read it some time, so you will see it's written 3 times that man was made in God's image.

If that is the case then God's image is that of a Man.

No, man is made in the image of God, it says 3 times in Genesis 1

. There are other interpretations of what "image" means. I would say the image of God refers to us having a soul and having a relationship with him.

You would say hat because otherwise you get into trouble with believing it.
And the Bible confirms several times that God 'looks like a human', with a body, a face, hands, etcetera.
You'll have to dismiss al that to fit your (dis)beliefs.

So evolution being true would only describe how our physical bodies came to be.

Only it doesn't.
All they say is: Evolution must have done that, but they can explain how.

So I can still believe we were created in the image of God and given a soul while acknowledging my body is a product of evolution.

Yes, but meanwhile you believe in a mutant god, adapted to your 'expert opinion'.

 

[SteveB28]

If the theory was not so flawed i might be inclined to consider that possibility, but i cannot because the theory is very flawed. I sure wont build my understanding of scripture around a flawed scientific theory.

No flaws have been detected in the theory in over 150 years of examination and testing.

The theory of evolution rests on a very wide basis of evidence - geology, palaeontology, morphology, geographical distribution and, more latterly, microbiology and genetics. If just ONE piece of conflicting evidence could be found in ANY of those disciplines, the theory would come tumbling down. And yet........

150 years. Not one flaw.

 

[Extraneous]

No flaws have been detected in the theory in over 150 years of examination and testing.

The theory of evolution rests on a very wide basis of evidence - geology, palaeontology, morphology, geographical distribution and, more latterly, microbiology and genetics. If just ONE piece of conflicting evidence could be found in ANY of those disciplines, the theory would come tumbling down. And yet........

150 years. Not one flaw.

Not one flaw? I think you are deluding yourself. There are problems with ToE in every one of those areas of science.

 

[SteveB28]

Not one flaw? I think you are deluding yourself. There are problems with ToE in every one of those areas of science.

Please, make yourself extremely famous.....not to mention, wealthy as well.

Expose your flaws!

 

[Extraneous]

Please, make yourself extremely famous.....not to mention, wealthy as well.

Expose your flaws!

No, i wont bother because everyone is already aware of those discrepancies. They get debated here incessantly to no end. I don't wish to turn this thread into one of those threads. I see not profit in debating that which is already debated to no end.The fact of the matter is that the world refuse to give God glory, and God blinds the world because of that, and causes them to believe a great delusion. ToE is only one example of that, politics and religious notions are another.

 

[Hieronymus]

There's too much evidence to disprove it.

And that's a lie, you just parrot the bluff.
You can not present any evidence, nobody can, that's why people dismiss it.

 

[Hieronymus]

The ignore list is still growing...

 

[Hieronymus]

I merely asked you to define your word "kind" you used. You have not defined the word. This is no surprise . . . creationists consistently fail to define the word "kind" with any kind of precision.

You probably didn't listen.

 

[SteveB28]

No, i wont bother because everyone is already aware of those discrepancies. They get debated here incessantly to no end. I don't wish to turn this thread into one of those threads. I see not profit in debating that which is already debated to no end.The fact of the matter is that the world refuse to give God glory, and God blinds the world because of that, and causes them to believe a great delusion. ToE is only one example of that, politics and religious notions are another.

Won't bother, or can't?

Find a fossil in an incorrect stratum.
Find an incompatible chromosomal arrangement.
Find a misplaced morphological feature.
Find evidence of mammals having appeared before reptiles.
Explain the location of endogenous retroviral insertions across the primates.

No one has done any of this in 150 years. You might get lucky.

Have at it!

 

[SteveB28]

And this....

and God blinds the world because of that, and causes them to believe a great delusion. ToE is only one example of that, politics and religious notions are another.

You are portraying your God as a Great Deceiver?

I thought that title was supposed to belong to another.

 

[Extraneous]

Won't bother, or can't?

Find a fossil in an incorrect stratum.
Find an incompatible chromosomal arrangement.
Find a misplaced morphological feature.
Find evidence of mammals having appeared before reptiles.
Explain the location of endogenous retroviral insertions across the primates.

No one has done any of this in 150 years. You might get lucky.

Have at it!

Here we go, down the rabbit trail. No thanks Steve. We could debate about fossils of missing links, and how they are not missing links, and we could debate about mans ignorance of Human DNA, and about his ignorance of stratum in relation to flooding and volcanic activity, and other such scientific ignorance, but in the end it wouldn't prove anything and only tire us out. No friend, i wont go there because many such threads exist, You will see what you want to see. You will make a fleshy show of your scientific theories, although they are flawed, and a show of your scientific vocabulary, but it will prove nothing. In the end ToE proponents will still be ToE, and Creationists will be Creationists.

 

[SteveB28]

Here we go, down the rabbit trail. No thanks Steve. We could debate about fossils of missing links, and how they are not missing links, and we could debate about mans ignorance of Human DNA, and about his ignorance of stratum in relation to flooding and volcanic activity, and other such scientific ignorance, but in the end it wouldn't prove anything and only tire us out. No friend, i wont go there because many such threads exist, You will see what you want to see. You will make fleshy show of your scientific theories, although they are flawed, and a show of your scientist vocabulary, but it will prove nothing. In the ToE proponents will still be ToE, and Creationists will be Creationists.

And one group will be resting upon evidence and the other upon empty, baseless claims.

If you think you possess the truth, you should never be afraid to reveal it.

 

[Extraneous]

And this....



You are portraying your God as a Great Deceiver?

I thought that title was supposed to belong to another.

Because man loved a lie, God let him have it. Man reaps what he sows.

 

[Extraneous]

And one group will be resting upon evidence and the other upon empty, baseless claims.

If you think you possess the truth, you should never be afraid to reveal it.

The truth that you see if based of fallacies, you however wont admit it. Its iike trying to argue over a massive jigsaw puzzle that has half the pieces missing. Illogical.

 

[Hieronymus]

And of course that thread started by our pleading T.E. friend - is ultimately swamped by atheist and agnostic posts of the form "all-praise-evolution".

I have the same problem with that.
I would suggest you use the ignore option on people who are unreasonable.
It eliminates pointless bickering and exasperation.
It improves the quality of discussion, it eliminates the noise.

 

[SteveB28]

The truth that you see if based of fallacies, you however wont admit it. Its iike trying to argue over a massive jigsaw puzzle that has half the pieces missing. Illogical.

And yet, neither you nor anyone else in 150 years, can find one missing piece from that puzzle.

Not one.

I understand your motivation. You feel it an affront to your belief structure, that is quite obvious. But affrontery is not enough to overturn a scientific theory.

You need evidence.

And the theory of evolution is very generous. It lays itself open in such a way that just ONE piece of conflicting evidence will send it on its way.

Just one. So let's have it please.