Confidence and Arrogance, what are the differences, and do they both stem from pride?

[Neogaia777]

"Pride" in the form of "Arrogance" is usually condemned, while "Confidence" is praised... Is Confidence a form of pride? and if it is, is it "good" as long as it doesn't turn into "Arrogance"... And where is it, that we cross that line?

Comments?

God Bless!

 

[quatona]

"Pride" in the form of "Arrogance" is usually condemned, while "Confidence" is praised... Is Confidence a form of pride? and if it is, is it "good" as long as it doesn't turn into "Arrogance"... And where is it, that we cross that line?

Comments?

God Bless!

I don´t see how any two of these three concepts are closely related, sorry.

 

[juvenissun]

"Pride" in the form of "Arrogance" is usually condemned, while "Confidence" is praised... Is Confidence a form of pride? and if it is, is it "good" as long as it doesn't turn into "Arrogance"... And where is it, that we cross that line?

Comments?

God Bless!

They are two sides of one thing.

Without uttering a single word:
Confidence is a feeling of one who looks at himself;
Arrogance is a feeling of others towards one who is confident.

 

[GrowingSmaller]

Sorry I am too much of a nerd to know the difference, I can only guess that pride may be more socially acceptable, and seen as valid self worth maybe, whereas arrogance is conceited and not based in true evaluation, more of a show and a "me versus them" mentality - relative evaluation rather than absolute...?

 

[Belk]

"Pride" in the form of "Arrogance" is usually condemned, while "Confidence" is praised... Is Confidence a form of pride? and if it is, is it "good" as long as it doesn't turn into "Arrogance"... And where is it, that we cross that line?

Comments?

God Bless!

Arrogance is the opposite of confidence. Arrogance is the artificial inflation of ego to cover for feelings of inadequacy. Confidence on the other hand is based on experience and self trust.

 

[AirPo]

Confidence is a feeling/attitude toward yourself.
Arrogance is a feeling/attitude toward others.

 

[Neogaia777]

Confidence is a feeling/attitude toward yourself.
Arrogance is a feeling/attitude toward others.

I'm afraid it's not that simple, you can have confidence in others and arrogance about/toward yourself...

Arrogance is born from confidence, you know that song, "What's wrong with being confident?" Well, my answer would be it all to easily turns into arrogance before you know it or are even aware of it, my question is: Where is that line we cross?

 

[Paradoxum]

Confidence is based on experience, but arrogance is based on prejudice or unjustified egotism? Pride can be good or bad, depending on which way it sways.

 

[Locutus]

arrogance is when someone imagines they have rights or entitlements others don't have, and acting on that idea. if, however, the same person also allows others equal access to those rights and entitlements, it could be considered confidence.

generally speaking, confidence is reaching a place in life where we're happy to be our authentic self, and not too bothered if some don't care for it. it doesn't really impact other people - other than those who are rattled by confidence of course. but these are always going to be harder work than functional people.

 

[GrowingSmaller]

Yo! Thats confidence.

 

[timewerx]

"Pride" in the form of "Arrogance" is usually condemned, while "Confidence" is praised... Is Confidence a form of pride? and if it is, is it "good" as long as it doesn't turn into "Arrogance"... And where is it, that we cross that line?

Comments?

God Bless!

Just my own opinion.

If you can be confident in a situation of utter hopelessness, then you can keep it. Else, keep it to yourself!

 

[Neogaia777]

Confidence is based on experience, but arrogance is based on prejudice or unjustified egotism? Pride can be good or bad, depending on which way it sways.

Not true, arrogance can be based on experience, I'll use myself as an example, I've had so, so, many supernatural "experiences" that it could have easily made me arrogant, I remember those times and I would listen to a sermon after having a supernatural experience, and I started to think, when they mentioned the greatness of God, or his power and strength, I found myself identifying applying those things about God and attributing them to myself, thinking I was "like God" and it scared the heck out of me, so I turned it off, Like Paul I was getting exceedingly proud due to the abundance of the revelations, and I had to do something to keep my pride in check, and that was due to experience...

Like in this song, I started to think that I was the "I AM" in it in parts, and I get very, very scared when this happens, thinking that's God's glory and I am stealing it...

I oftentimes wondered if Paul's excellent lengthy introductions to people and churches, were to humble himself and to keep Paul's pride from becoming to puffed-up from confidence into arrogance...

Here's that song:

God Bless!

 

[Paradoxum]

Not true, arrogance can be based on experience, I'll use myself as an example, I've had so, so, many supernatural "experiences" that it could have easily made me arrogant, I remember those times and I would listen to a sermon after having a supernatural experience, and I started to think, when they mentioned the greatness of God, or his power and strength, I found myself identifying applying those things about God and attributing them to myself, thinking I was "like God" and it scared the heck out of me, so I turned it off, Like Paul I was getting exceedingly proud due to the abundance of the revelations, and I had to do something to keep my pride in check, and that was due to experience...

Like in this song, I started to think that I was the "I AM" in it in parts, and I get very, very scared when this happens, thinking that's God's glory and I am stealing it...

I oftentimes wondered if Paul's excellent lengthy introductions to people and churches, were to humble himself and to keep Paul's pride from becoming to puffed-up from confidence into arrogance...

That wasn't based on the evidence, it was going beyond the evidence.

 

[Deidre32]

Arrogance is the opposite of confidence. Arrogance is the artificial inflation of ego to cover for feelings of inadequacy. Confidence on the other hand is based on experience and self trust.

Nicely put! Agree.

 

[zippy2006]

"Pride" in the form of "Arrogance" is usually condemned, while "Confidence" is praised... Is Confidence a form of pride? and if it is, is it "good" as long as it doesn't turn into "Arrogance"... And where is it, that we cross that line?

Arrogance/pride is an excessive love of oneself and an overestimation of one's capabilities and powers. It occurs when your perception of yourself is greater than the real thing.

Confidence is a trust in one's abilities to do that which requires doing.

Confidence can be good or bad, true or false, depending on whether the assessment of abilities is accurate. Arrogance/pride often lead to false confidence and false confidence is a sign of arrogance/pride.

 

[jayem]

It's in the eye of the beholder. And it's a matter of style.

This is confidence:

This is arrogance:

 

[Eudaimonist]

Is Confidence a form of pride?

No, but a virtuous pride would certainly contain self-confidence. (I assume you mean self-confidence.)

A viceful (hubristic) pride would contain arrogance.

and if it is, is it "good" as long as it doesn't turn into "Arrogance"...

Sure. I agree that arrogance is a vice.

It would also be bad if it turned into excessive self-doubt or self-belittlement.

And where is it, that we cross that line?

When you become over-confident, of course.

Arrogance means having or revealing an exaggerated sense of one's own importance or abilities. When you leave rationality behind and manufacture a personal narrative that is unrealistic (that is, not true to reality), you have become arrogant (or excessively self-doubting).

Let me stress, though, that I think that it is entirely legitimate to have confidence in one's ability to grow as a person. One may have greater importance or abilities in the future. All one must do is to realize that one doesn't have that importance or ability in the present, and that nothing is guaranteed about the future either.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Eudaimonist]

This is confidence:

Both of them are arrogant, in my view.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[AHH who-stole-my-name]

confidence is being secure in the knowledge that they can do what they've already done. Arrogance is the idea they can do those things better than anyone else. Pride is being immensely fond of being who you are.

 

[Eudaimonist]

Pride is being immensely fond of being who you are.

Pride sounds good when described that way.


eudaimonia,

Mark