jerry kelso
Food For Thought
You are wrong. Jews continue to be unenlightened to the extent that they think animal sacrifices should continue and reject the sacrifice of Jesus. Rituals and animal sacrifices are no longer required in the new covenant.
So you think persons with the new covenant can indulge in all sinful activities listed in no. 7? If you think it is, you are under the wrath of God even under the new covenant. One may not be stoned to death, but he will not enter the kingdom of God for sure.
No wonder you like Paul with goodies that are against the way of Jesus.
It is same for both Jews and Gentiles. Of course, God would love if Jews come to Him through Jesus because they were His chosen people.
Of course, Judaizers wanted the letter of the Law to continue along with rituals which Paul opposed. Paul was right on this account.
Blessings will not come even under the new covenant for sinful activities that were enumerated in the old.
Adultery and murder are sin under old. It is even sinful to think of them under the new. Do you realize the big difference here.
Stoning to death may have disappeared, but condemnation still continued.
No obedience to God under the OT and now in the NT continues. It is more difficult to remain obedient in the new covenant. Jesus did not come to issue licence to sin and get pardon next.
Sickness is the result of the fall of man and it has continued even now. Relief may be sought differently now.
A true believer follows Jesus, and he will have no time to speculate KOH or KOG or what not! That is for arm-chair Christians. Jesus demands workers.
No use dreaming of concepts of inaction.
1. I am wrong about what? I never said jews didn't think about the need for sacrifices or anything like that. The truth is some do and the Messianics don't that believe in the new covenant. The nation is preparing for this and to build the temple too. Many jews are atheist too. Jews can't even do sacrifices right now and I never said different and is not under the new covenant.
Your basis for saying this is most likely because I said you are living under the law mentality or something to that effect.
2. Have you ever disrespected your parent growing up? Did you have a mandatory judgement of stoning? These laws were there for the jews to obey to show that they loved God more than anyone including their children and spouse. This was the job of the civil law leaders and was not Jesus job because he was to seek and save that which was lost. This is why he exposed the hypocrisy of the leaders when he said, he without sin cast the first stone and told the accused woman, neither do I condemn thee, go and sin no more.
3. As far as one sin damning to hell depends on if it is a death penalty sin and if one does not ask for forgiveness. The works of sin that will be damned and for what will not be able to enter the KOH is found in Galatians 5:19-21. Paul was speaking to christians who were not walking in the Spirit and fulfilling the lusts of the flesh. He was speaking to those who were not being led by the Spirit but living the law. This law was the law of Moses mentality that was taken advantage of by the law of sin and death and made them live in sin.
4. This goes back to Romans 7 and it is the context of Galatians and was another gospel that Paul talked about in the 1st chapter. In the 2nd chapter he talks about receiving his revelation and how James, Peter and John sanctioned Paul and what he had received as being given the grace of God's truth. He also called down Peter and the others walked not according to the truth of the gospel and reprimanded them because of respect of persons. They were trying to justify themselves by the works of the law and they were to be dead to the law of Moses works. Jews had this mentality to a certain point before because they had the covenants and they would be the head of the nations and until Peter had the vision of the unclean and clean they didn't understand that Calvary was about completely breaking down the wall of partition. Galatians was after Peter had been given the vision and he knew better and Paul kept him accountable. Peter sinned but he didn't go to hell.
5. Chapter 3 Works of the law are under the curse. If you just take this as not doing the commandments of some things wouldn't make any sense. This is what people believe that believe about doing the commandments. Not sinning is always in effect. We are always to be respectful to our parents and not commit murder and adultery and not have other God before us etc. Christians commit these but they don't have the same judgement.
6. The people before the law were to do commandments of whatever their revelation of God was. But you wouldn't say we live under just the law of our conscience alone that happened to eventually be in the written law. So why would you want to do the commands of the law of Moses that have nothing to do with your culture and another age with lesser revelation than we do today? You are trying to say to do the commandments and make exception for the sacrificial part because you know you cannot deny that Christ is the new testament in his blood. You ignore full context of the covenant and this is what you do not understand. This chapter contrast the law of Moses and the new covenant that had the promise from Abraham and could not keep it from coming to pass and the angels were the mediator of the old covenant and the new covenant mediator was Christ and is another reason why the two covenants are different.
7. Chapter 4; Galatians 4:4 God sent his son made of a woman under the law. Paul shows the contrast of the two different covenants in the allegory of the sons of the bond maid and the freewoman. The bond maid's son was Ishmael and Isaac was the son of the freewoman. The law represents the struggle and the son would not be the heir. The liberty would be the son of the freewoman.
8. Chapter 5 is about standing in the law of liberty which represents the new covenant and not the yoke of bondage that represents the law of Moses. It also speaks of living in the Spirit which is under the new covenant and not the old covenant of law which because of the weakness of the commandment was taken advantage of the law that was holy and good and made the jew live to the frailty of man and sin. If one is stays under this mentality and lifestyle they will not inherit the KOG. These works of the flesh are not to be our character for the fruits of the Spirit are to be our character. This is another contrast of the new covenant versus the old covenant and why the new covenant was built on better promises.
9. Chapter 6 is about restoration and not being deceived because God is not mocked for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that woeth to his flesh shall of the fles reap corruption: but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. Galatians 6:12 says; As many as desire to make a fair shew in the flesh, they constrain you to be circumcised: only lest they should suffer persecution for the cross of Christ. Those law keepers were proud and were violent and they didn't want to be a believer because they knew they would be persecuted for the cross of Christ. Jesus said they would be persecuted for the cross because the cross is an offence to the gospel. So Paul is in harmony with Christ.
10. Goodies? What goodies?
11. Peter was a jew culturally under the law and after the law. He didn't expect the gentiles to be jews in Acts 15 because he didn't want him to be under the yoke of bondage which was the law. This is why at the council they said as long as the gentiles abstain from meats offered to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Even jewish men and jewish woman could not keep the law the same in every respect.
I understand the mindset of the jewish thinking of the law not being abolished and why they say that. Listen, a gentile could keep dietary laws and that would not be a sin if they do it for good health. That is common sense. However, the jews had to keep these laws or else suffer specific judgements. Everything was basically geared towards trying to be justified such as the case of being physically circumcised which is not required for a jew or gentile under the new covenant. However, there is nothing wrong with being physically circumcised for either party. The correct context will harmonize with the details and vice versa.
12. Blessings and curses from the old testament are different than in the new covenant. Another words Paul said about giving of necessity and begrudgingly etc. This was the mentality of the law.
He said if you sow sparingly you will reap sparingly and if you sow bountifully you will reap bountifully. The principle is the same for the old covenant and the new covenant. They are different in the specific judgements of the old versus the new covenant which don't have the specific judgements.
Malachi talks about the children of Israel robbing God of tithes and the priests were defiling the temple and they would incur the judgement of the under the law and how the devourer would destroy the fruits of the ground.
13. If they obeyed God and brought the tithes God would bless them and all nations shall call you blessed. This is all in conjunction with the overall context of the KOH and the KOG message and being at the head of the nations and the specific blessings and cursing system which the church is not under.
If we don't tithe we could not be blessed or not blessed as much but there are some who are smart business people and don't tithe and still flourish financially.
14. Disobedience has consequences whether under the old covenant or the new covenant. You sow what you reap is still effect in principle but is different under the old covenant and the new covenant. It was in effect before the law. Cain gave the wrong offering and God was not pleased and he was not blessed and God didn't accept it. There was no law of murder though it was a sin and God gave him a mark of protection and not a specific judgement of death like under the Mosaic law.
15. Jesus was teaching the law about adultery because they were not to covet a neighbor's wife etc. He was not teaching anything new but he was exposing their true heart that was defiled because the jews were backslidden in their covenant and that is what being accepted into the KOH reign was all about. Matthew 4:17; REPENT for the KOH is at hand.
16. Stoning to death was done away and so was condemnation. Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation in Christ Jesus. Paul said this after he explained the weakness of the law of Moses that was holy and good but was taken advantage of by the law of sin and death that made them live to the frailty of man and sin. Mixing law and grace together causes the struggle of defeat mentality and destroys the effect of the cross of Christ.
17. I already addressed disobedience and sowing and reaping principles were before, during, and after the law. The new covenant gives no license for sin and is built on better promises than the old covenant to prevent this.
18. A true believer follows Jesus and his death and resurrection which is the true gospel. Jesus said this and Paul says this.
The KOH and the KOG message is the whole of the message in Jesus teachings to the jews.
The new covenant has workers but not in self effort as under the old covenant of law. There is no greater example of failure than Israel. It was because of the weakness of the commandment which was because the commandments could only say, "THOU SHALT NOT" BUT NOT HELP THE LAW KEEPER PERFORM THE COMMANDMENT. CHRIST THE ENDLESS LIFE CAN HELP PERFORM THE COMMANDMENT!. ONLY CHRIST THE ENDLESS LIFE CAN SAVE US AND NOT THE INABILITY OF KEEPING THE COMMANDMENTS OF THE LAW BECAUSE OF THE LAW OF SIN AND DEATH BEING ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE LAW THAT WAS HOLY AND GOOD AND MAKE PEOPLE LIVE TO THE BONDAGE OF SIN AND CONTINUE IN THE STRUGGLE OF DEFEAT AND ITS MENTALITY.
YOUR BELIEF OF CONCEPTS OF INACTION SHOW THAT YOU ARE A LAW KEEPER AND HAVE FAITH IN THE ABILITY TO KEEP COMMANDMENTS INSTEAD OF FAITH IN THE ENDLESS LIFE TO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS. JERRY KELSO
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