Does Science Agree With the Bible?

[Subduction Zone]

Man does not seem to understand anything because man and his understanding is in a constant state of change. God does not change. I know that there are people that do not understand the Bible but the Bible has remained consistent from the beginning and the Bible does not change. God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow and He does not change. Man's understanding of good and evil is in a constant state of change. People are changing either for the better or for the worse. Either they are more the person God is calling them to be or they are becoming less the person that God is calling them to be. Everyone has that choice to make in life. Everyone has to make that decision.

We live in a world that is in a constant state of change. Yet the laws remain the same from the beginning. So in science there is something that does not change. So you have a testimony that God is the same and He does not change.

Of course man's understanding is always changing, but you need to look at the pattern of change. It is not random change the changes keep getting smaller and smaller as we understand our world better and better. Why would anyone complain because we understand the world much better than we did a mere 50 years ago? And you hit on one of the problems with the Bible. It has no way of correcting its failed science, bad morals and failed prophecies. Being able to change when you have been shown to be wrong is a good thing.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Of course man's understanding is always changing, but you need to look at the pattern of change. It is not random change the changes keep getting smaller and smaller as we understand our world better and better. Why would anyone complain because we understand the world much better than we did a mere 50 years ago? And you hit on one of the problems with the Bible. It has no way of correcting its failed science, bad morals and failed prophecies. Being able to change when you have been shown to be wrong is a good thing.

The Bible has no error and has no need of correction. Even better God watches over His Word to perform it. So the God that created this universe stands behind the Bible. The problem is in our understanding of the Bible. "so is my word that goes out from my mouth: It will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it." You understand the natural laws of the Univese. So you already know all about God. When you know God as well as you do then why would you worry about the people that do not know God and what they say? That does not make any sense.

As far as change it is not the change itself, it is the mistakes and errors that are reviled. I use to go around and around with my doctor about this. He was really sold on the current level of medicine. I was not so convinced because I have seen so many things change in my life that I was not ready to jump on the latest trend to come along. They are so convinced by some study somewhere. Then a new study comes out that contradicts the old study and all of a sudden they have a new reality. Oh yeah, that is they way we use to do it but we do it different now. We are fully convinced that what we are doing now is right even if we were wrong before.

So if you want to trust in man then trust in man. I am going to put my turst in God. He does not make mistakes.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Atheists seem to be more moral than most Christians. At least according to Christian standards. They have very low out of wedlock birthrates, divorce rates, and clearly much much lower rates of breaking the law than Christians do. So it looks like we are golden.

Do you know what they call a prisoner in China? As organ donor. A lot of your atheist countries are under Communism and that means their laws are a lot stricter then what you find in Christian countries.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Well that's good news of a sort, though many other Christians would disagree with you. At least it looks like most atheists would be welcome into heaven by your standards.

The only way into Heaven is though the Blood of Jesus. All have sinned and all are guilty. He paid the price for who so ever is willing to come to God to be saved and redeemed. If there are Christians that do not agree with me then most likely it is because they are more liberal and I am more conservative in my beliefs. I mostly just read the Bible for myself and depended upon God to guide me and lead me into the truth. I did not depend on man.

 

[katerinah1947]

Depends what you think mean is. Exposing evil and lies may seem mean to some. No we do not now know the day of the second coming.

Hi, (in edits now) (done now)

Mean is mean.

Haters hate.

Since we do not know the date of Jesus, coming, I will not mistakenly now think that you know it, because God The Father revealed it to you, Which He can do.

I am sorry for misunderstanding you. I thought you did know, the date.

Jesus, Objectively told the truth, from what I can tell scripturally.

To me, brood of vipers was no insult, it was a group of people through whom Satan worked.

Thus to me, they actually were snake like.

To me, Peter was called Satan, not as an insult, but as a reality, as he, Peter actually knew that Jesus was to die on the cross, he actually knew God's Will then, and he was opposing that to Jesus.

Us, doing our own will, rather than God's Will, is all it takes to work for Satan, I think.

Now,

Put together, love as defined Biblically, is not an emotion, it is an action.

Jesus did that action the most perfectly.,

HE DID HIS FATHER'S WILL.

And that is how love is defined by God.

Not flowers, actions. Not words, actions. Not a thing else, actions.

I came to do my Father's Will. Jesus said something like that.

To me, Biblically, even if I am wrong, that substitution I make, Biblically, for the word love, everywhere in that book.



And, mean, is defined as Matthew 7-16, defines that.

Have you not been around thorny women?

Have you not been around briar like men?

Women or men who insult and hurt feelings and cause arguments, are mean.

Mark 9:38-42, has that as a central theme, from Jesus.

Do not hurt others, especially those who are lesser than you in any way.

There are no loopholes, and hatred is murder Biblically.

Instead, Proverbs, one a day, coinciding with the day of the month, and giving your free will up to God, such that you do His Will, Always, Everywhere and in All things, will in about 6 months time, enable any real believer, to engage, without insulting others, hopefully.

At least that is my take on things.

LOVE,

 

[joshua 1 9]

Perhaps little people evolved from leprechauns?

If you watch the program they say there are as many as 200 causes for people being little. Sometimes perhaps even often the condition is hereditary.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The Bible has no error and has no need of correction. Even better God watches over His Word to perform it. So the God that created this universe stands behind the Bible. The problem is in our understanding of the Bible. "so is my word that goes out from my mouth: It will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it." You understand the natural laws of the Univese. So you already know all about God. When you know God as well as you do then why would you worry about the people that do not know God and what they say? That does not make any sense.

As far as change it is not the change itself, it is the mistakes and errors that are reviled. I use to go around and around with my doctor about this. He was really sold on the current level of medicine. I was not so convinced because I have seen so many things change in my life that I was not ready to jump on the latest trend to come along. They are so convinced by some study somewhere. Then a new study comes out that contradicts the old study and all of a sudden they have a new reality. Oh yeah, that is they way we use to do it but we do it different now. We are fully convinced that what we are doing now is right even if we were wrong before.

So if you want to trust in man then trust in man. I am going to put my turst in God. He does not make mistakes.

The Bible has hundreds of errors in the form of self contradictions alone. And the "science" of the Bible was refuted long ago.

You do realize that there never was a global flood, don't you?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Do you know what they call a prisoner in China? As organ donor. A lot of your atheist countries are under Communism and that means their laws are a lot stricter then what you find in Christian countries.

And a lot of "my atheist" countries offer higher freedoms than you will find in Christian countries. Take Sweden for example. It has almost twice as many atheists as theists and you will probably not find a happier freer society.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The only way into Heaven is though the Blood of Jesus. All have sinned and all are guilty. He paid the price for who so ever is willing to come to God to be saved and redeemed. If there are Christians that do not agree with me then most likely it is because they are more liberal and I am more conservative in my beliefs. I mostly just read the Bible for myself and depended upon God to guide me and lead me into the truth. I did not depend on man.

What? Now you you are contradicting an earlier post of yours. Also it seems that you don't believe in justice. But then logic and theism never go together.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

The Bible has hundreds of errors in the form of self contradictions alone. And the "science" of the Bible was refuted long ago.

You do realize that there never was a global flood, don't you?

I have heard that Muslims claim there are up to a 1000 contradictions, including both the Hebrew OT and the Christian NT.
Perhaps it depends on which Hebrew and Greek MSs, which translations/Bible versions are used, and perhaps also the translators and scribes?
But then Islam is Arabic, whereas the Bible is Hebrew and Greek, so something is bound to get lost in the translation somewhere?

https://wardoons.wordpress.com/debate/
1000 CLEAR CONTRADICTIONS IN THE BIBLE

 

[katerinah1947]

The Bible has hundreds of errors in the form of self contradictions alone. And the "science" of the Bible was refuted long ago.

You do realize that there never was a global flood, don't you?

Hi,

Off the refutations by science, that you personally understand, both sides of the issue, which is your favorite?

LOVE,

 

[katerinah1947]

I have heard that Muslims claim there are up to a 1000 contradictions, including both the Hebrew OT and the Christian NT.
Perhaps it depends on which Hebrew and Greek MSs which translations/Bible versions are used, and perhaps also the translators and scribes?
But then Islam is Arabic, whereas the Bible is Hebrew and Greek, so something is bound to get lost in the translation somewhere?

https://wardoons.wordpress.com/debate/
1000 CLEAR CONTRADICTIONS IN THE BIBLE

Hi,

From: your wardoons reference. Item number 1.):

"1. To be son is to be less than divine and to be divine is to be no one’s son. How could Jesus have the attributes of Sonship and divinity altogether?neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His shape“?"

To be son, is to be less than divine, is fallacious, thus the conclusions are fallacious also.

That, is just the first item alone.

LOVE,

 

[Subduction Zone]

Hi,

Off the refutations by science, that you personally understand, both sides of the issue, which is your favorite?

LOVE,

Sorry, but this sentence makes no sense.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I have heard that Muslims claim there are up to a 1000 contradictions, including both the Hebrew OT and the Christian NT.
Perhaps it depends on which Hebrew and Greek MSs, which translations/Bible versions are used, and perhaps also the translators and scribes?
But then Islam is Arabic, whereas the Bible is Hebrew and Greek, so something is bound to get lost in the translation somewhere?

https://wardoons.wordpress.com/debate/
1000 CLEAR CONTRADICTIONS IN THE BIBLE

This is the source that I like to use. It shows the verses that contradict each other graphically:

http://bibviz.com/

At any rate one is enough and hundreds if not thousands, shows that the Bible is a flawed work of man. Now there may be some great truths in it. But the idea that it is the perfect word of God is laughable. That sounds like blasphemy to me since the people that make that claim are in essence calling God a bungler.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Hi,

Off the refutations by science, that you personally understand, both sides of the issue, which is your favorite?

LOVE,

Since I have a geology background and it is most obvious to me, I like the fact that there never was a worldwide flood.

 

[katerinah1947]

Since I have a geology background and it is most obvious to me, I like the fact that there never was a worldwide flood.

Hi,

Ever, or just in that originally erroneous timing, like 2760 BCE?

Side issue, since you have a geology background, that water erosion of the pit, for the Egyptian Sphinx, is that still valid, setting the pit age at 12,500 BCE, or so, still?

LOVE,

 

[dad]

Hi, (in edits now) (done now)

Mean is mean.

Haters hate.

Lovers love and birds fly. So who is the hater? We hate evil of course. We hate lies...etc.

Since we do not know the date of Jesus, coming, I will not mistakenly now think that you know it, because God The Father revealed it to you, Which He can do.

No idea.

Jesus, Objectively told the truth, from what I can tell scripturally.

Right.

To me, brood of vipers was no insult, it was a group of people through whom Satan worked.

Exactly and science is like that when it talks about creation issues.

To me, Peter was called Satan, not as an insult, but as a reality, as he, Peter actually knew that Jesus was to die on the cross, he actually knew God's Will then, and he was opposing that to Jesus.

Right and science is Satan inspired to a large degree.

Us, doing our own will, rather than God's Will, is all it takes to work for Satan, I think.

Now,

Put together, love as defined Biblically, is not an emotion, it is an action.

Jesus did that action the most perfectly.,

HE DID HIS FATHER'S WILL.

And that is how love is defined by God.

Not flowers, actions. Not words, actions. Not a thing else, actions.

I came to do my Father's Will. Jesus said something like that.

Nice thoughts so can you relate it to the thread or anything at all here?

To me, Biblically, even if I am wrong, that substitution I make, Biblically, for the word love, everywhere in that book.

And, mean, is defined as Matthew 7-16, defines that.

Have you not been around thorny women?

Have you not been around briar like men?

Women or men who insult and hurt feelings and cause arguments, are mean.

OK...so? Did that happen to someone here?

Do not hurt others, especially those who are lesser than you in any way.

There are no loopholes, and hatred is murder Biblically.

Right...and...is there a point?

Instead, Proverbs, one a day, coinciding with the day of the month, and giving your free will up to God, such that you do His Will, Always, Everywhere and in All things, will in about 6 months time, enable any real believer, to engage, without insulting others, hopefully.

I insult lies and science as one should.

 

[joshua 1 9]

What? Now you you are contradicting an earlier post of yours. Also it seems that you don't believe in justice. But then logic and theism never go together.

There is no contradiction. God is smart enough to figure all of this out even if you and I are still having to struggle to mature and come to a full measure of understanding. It takes time and you have a lot to learn.

 

[joshua 1 9]

And a lot of "my atheist" countries offer higher freedoms than you will find in Christian countries. Take Sweden for example. It has almost twice as many atheists as theists and you will probably not find a happier freer society.

I never went to Europe. My grandmother wanted to give me a trip there as a graduation gift but I did not want to go. I did go to Hong Kong so I have seen where the East meet the West. I am here because this is where God wants me then when I finish my work here I will go onto my next assignment.

 

[joshua 1 9]

The Bible has hundreds of errors in the form of self contradictions alone. And the "science" of the Bible was refuted long ago.

There are no, none, zip, zero contradictions in the Bible. I use to follow them though and check them out. Now I realize there is no need for that because there are no contradictions. Period the end.

You do realize that there never was a global flood, don't you?

Yes of course I realize that. That means that the Bible does not teach that there was a global flood. I have gone though all the Hebrew word to verify that it was "Adamah" or the land of Adam that was flooded. Not the whole world as some people seem to believe. The evidence is overwhelming that Noah's flood was local from OUR perspective. From Noah's perspective his world was flooded. He was on the Ark and the Ark was surrounded by water and there was no land to be found. When you read the story the Bible is not written from your perspective. It is written from Noah's perspective. This is all basic 101 Bible interpretation. Maybe you should study up on how to understand and interpretate the Bible. Do a google search and study up on the rules.