Does Science Agree With the Bible?

[katerinah1947]

Interesting. Yet practically nothing in religion is provable.

Hi,

Practically nothing, or nothing?

LOVE,

 

[katerinah1947]

Interesting. Yet practically nothing in religion is provable.

Hi,

Can you personally prove anything is false?

LOVE,

 

[Kylie]

I will try...when you post something we can get our teeth into.

Already have done. Not my fault you lack the scientific knowledge to understand what I said.

 

[Kylie]

Neither. I got saved, and started to be aware of the bible.

And I'm sure that you were given a Bible by someone who told you it was true.

If any of those letters involve the former times and nature you investigate squat.

Yeah, you actually need to do more than make these claims. SHow me WHY or you;ve got nothing.

Precisely. Beware.

https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=define sarcasm

1Jo 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

That is the name of the game.

So what? It's just another claim. Unless you can show em the claim is accurate, it means nothing.

I can say:

"Any person whosoever denies the Invisible Pink Unicorn is blind, for they have not seen the abundant evidences of her presence, nor have they seen the dainty hoofmarks she has left on all things."

Doesn't mean it is true, does it?

Maybe one day you will learn that throwing Bible passages at me is a waste of your time and mine.

Ac 1:3 - To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:

Such claims are meaningless unless you actually produce these alleged infallible proofs.

All you have is many baseless doubts!

I have science and reason, which have shown themselves to be the best tools ever for finding out the truth about the world.

Which one, this one, the former nature or the future world?

All the same thing, unless you can provide some actual evidence.

No, passages from the Bible don't count.
No, unsupported claims don't count.

You limited perspective amounts to fishbowl philosophy.

You want to believe so badly you are seeing that aren't there which you believe you require in order to justify your belief.

You would need to be able to recognize it.

Well, if it violates all known natural laws, I think it would serve as a means of recognition. Or heck, let's just have it violate ONE natural law. Just one. Surely you can do that, yes?

God is a spirit, and we all meet Him one day.

Okay.

Shame no one's come back from the dead to verify it, isn't it?

 

[joshua 1 9]

You forgot that most atheists have already seen the light. That is why they are atheists after all.

Either way in the end people will receive according to their deeds.

Paul and the False Apostles 2cor11:14
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds.

 

[joshua 1 9]

No, it is only evidence that the Bible has some good advice. It is hardly evidence that the Bible is true. And yes, for almost all matters of ethics you will find that atheists do better than Christians. Let's start with something obvious. Atheists are far underrepresented in prison. Since they are roughly 5% of the population if they were just as bad as Christians one would find about 5% of the prisoners in federal prisons to be atheists. Instead they are an amazingly low 0.07%:

The general belief is that Christians suffer in this life. That is what shows us they are son and daughters of God. The so called atheists will suffer when they have made a completion of sin. If they do not repent and turn away from sin while they are still alive then we are told their suffering well begin when this life ends.

Heb 12 6 "MY SON, DO NOT REGARD LIGHTLY THE DISCIPLINE OF THE LORD, NOR FAINT WHEN YOU ARE REPROVED BY HIM; 6FOR THOSE WHOM THE LORD LOVES HE DISCIPLINES, AND HE SCOURGES EVERY SON WHOM HE RECEIVES."7It is for discipline that you endure; God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom his father does not discipline?…

 

[joshua 1 9]

Why do you think that man could not understand the difference between good and evil himself. It really is not that hard of a concept. You only need to realize that you could be on the other side of any situation.

Man does not seem to understand anything because man and his understanding is in a constant state of change. God does not change. I know that there are people that do not understand the Bible but the Bible has remained consistent from the beginning and the Bible does not change. God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow and He does not change. Man's understanding of good and evil is in a constant state of change. People are changing either for the better or for the worse. Either they are more the person God is calling them to be or they are becoming less the person that God is calling them to be. Everyone has that choice to make in life. Everyone has to make that decision.

We live in a world that is in a constant state of change. Yet the laws remain the same from the beginning. So in science there is something that does not change. So you have a testimony that God is the same and He does not change.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Indeed. No mythical figures necessary.

Yes the early church fathers explained almost 2,000 years ago that we do not need mythology. Homor for example was not a believer in God. That was required reading when I was in High School.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Yes the early church fathers explained almost 2,000 years ago that we do not need mythology.

Have you actually... read the Bible? The Gospel writers flooded their work with OT mythology.

Homor for example was not a believer in God. That was required reading when I was in High School.

And if it's not, that's just another example of the dumbing-down of America...

 

[AV1611VET]

Watching the Little people program on TV led me to believe that little people are real.

Sci ... er ... the muses at their best:

 

[AV1611VET]

And I'm sure that you were given a Bible by someone who told you it was true.

Just out of curiosity, are you against giving out Bibles on the grounds that They are scientifically incorrect?

 

[AV1611VET]

Perhaps little people evolved from leprechauns?

I doubt it.

But for the record, I do believe in Leprechauns and fallen angels such as Thor, Neptune, Zeus, et alii.

 

[dad]

Already have done. Not my fault you lack the scientific knowledge to understand what I said.

All it took was an ability to read to see that the religion you pound cannot be called science.

 

[dad]

And I'm sure that you were given a Bible by someone who told you it was true.

No. I bought it.

I can say:

"Any person whosoever denies the Invisible Pink Unicorn is blind, for they have not seen the abundant evidences of her presence, nor have they seen the dainty hoofmarks she has left on all things."

Doesn't mean it is true, does it?

No more than if you said that physics will exist as is in the future, or there are no spirits.

Maybe one day you will learn that throwing Bible passages at me is a waste of your time and mine.

Thought they were for you?

Such claims are meaningless unless you actually produce these alleged infallible proofs.

Jesus did that, holy apostles witnessed it. Others deny for no reason.

I have science and reason, which have shown themselves to be the best tools ever for finding out the truth about the world.

Not in the case of the future and past that led to a lie.

No, passages from the Bible don't count.

Yes they do.

No, unsupported claims don't count.

This is about science so one cannot avoid those.

You want to believe so badly you are seeing that aren't there which you believe you require in order to justify your belief.

Part of your delusion is viewing things that way.

Well, if it violates all known natural laws, I think it would serve as a means of recognition. Or heck, let's just have it violate ONE natural law. Just one. Surely you can do that, yes?

Don't look to men, look to God.

Shame no one's come back from the dead to verify it, isn't it?

Welcome to 2016. That marks the year Jesus came to settle that issue.

 

[katerinah1947]

No. I bought it.
No more than if you said that physics will exist as is in the future, or there are no spirits.
Thought they were for you?

Jesus did that, holy apostles witnessed it. Others deny for no reason.

Not in the case of the future and past that led to a lie.

Yes they do.
This is about science so one cannot avoid those.

Part of your delusion is viewing things that way.

Don't look to men, look to God.

Welcome to 2016. That marks the year Jesus came to settle that issue.

Hi, (Edits almost done now. Almost) (done)

Much better.

We don't know anything about the end. Jesus said that belongs to The Father.

Using words like delusion, if you meant the esoteric religious word, it will not be understood, by others who are in other fields from yours.

Also, Remember Jesus, is much against anger in those who truly Know God, as you have said, and your insight shows.

Scientists have purchased knowledge as it says in Proverbs that we are to do, also, in other areas. They are also Genesis 1:28 people, thus Godly by Genesis. They can be seen as Godly, in their clammerings for truth from civilians (non scientists), and Their Absolute Demanding Of Truth, from other fellow scientists, or those scientists are kicked out of science as soon as possible.

Another feature of scientists is spreading and using the good of science everywhere.

IN ALL PEOPLE, what separates THE CON MEN, THE CON WOMEN, from all others is normally invisible, and takes much time to find THOSE LIARS.

There is a non secret way, to separate, liars, from everyone else.

Biblically, and simply said, anyone who is verbally mean, is a liar, some of the time, and they exist for self. To them, you and I exist for them.

Digging deep down, first know that Jesus is ~infinitely infinitely infinitely and then some tender and mild~

Non revealed, non Christian Mystically seen, non mystically shown, non mystically demonstrated, that concept is found Biblically, in the actions of Jesus on earth, and in what is Said About Him there.

A lamb for the sacrifice. Tenderness is in a lamb. Mildness probably is also.

(It is winter here. Sheep and lambs are everywhere. They are feeding on the grasses, on the extensive farm lands all around. I don't know why. It is a normal thing here in rural Western Oregon. I am a farm kid. So I go out and look. We have a fig tree next door also. I have been around a fig tree since 1972, in one location or another. I should go out and experience the mildness of lambs. Then I would know more.)

Now onward.

Biblically when you know that on planet earth, figs are tender and mild as a fruit, and grapes are also, it is easier to understand, what Jesus told us on the subject of mean people.

That which is of God for real, even in Civilian life in the Businesses and the Sciences, is found in books.

With people telling you, I, or others what is in those books, the value, the nourishing, from those books, is only correctly gotten, from tender and mild people.

The above applies to even ministers.

In deeper Parable form, That is said by Jesus, in Matthew 7:15-16.

The figs are men, the grapes are women, the thorns are mean personalities in women, the briars are mean personalities in men.

We are not to listen, to those types beyond what they directly quote from books. Never are we supposed to listen to what they personally say about things, except when we are defending others, and need to show others, who and what they are up against.

Still, even that can be done in a non abrasive fashion, by grapes and figs.

Knowledge, is what allows one to be nice.

To know something for real is to be able to teach it to others, EVEN IN PRACTICE SESSIONS WHEN YOU ARE ALONE, to see if you truly understand what you think you understand, you can find out if you actually know, or merely think that you know soneting.

If you can teach if, you actually do know it.

Yes, I have run into that. Yes, I have had to shut up, because "OhMy I really don't know, I only thought I did"

An EXPERT IS SOMEONE WHO KNOWS ALL THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT A SUBJECT,,,,,AND,,,,,Which of it is FALSE.

That is not the normal definition people think of. It is the one I and others demanded of others and also was demanded of us, while wooing.

Tenure is gotten from that. I or you have to be one of the five or so experts in a field, then I can be granted tenure at a University.

If God is Real, what is there to fear from science; which is also GOOD, Is Comnanded by God to do; (Genesis 1:28); and is Commanded by God; to follow; (Romans 13:1-5)?????????

And none of us who Know God, Know Him, by our own efforts. (The New Testament somewhere like 1, or 2 Corinthians, maybe Romans or even Hebrews for that item)

Thus, it is not we, who direct our own paths, we just take orders and follow them.

That is all for now.

LOVE,

...Miriam in Hebrew, I think., .... .

 

[dad]

Hi, (Edits almost done now. Almost) (done)

Much better.

We don't know anything about the end. Jesus said that belongs to The Father.

Most prophesy about Jesus is about the return and rule actually. You are wrong.

Scientists have purchased knowledge as it says in Proverbs that we are to do, also, in other areas. They are also Genesis 1:28 people, thus Godly by Genesis. They can be seen as Godly, in their clammerings for truth from civilians (non scientists), and Their Absolute Demanding Of Truth, from other fellow scientists, or those scientists are kicked out of science as soon as possible.

They kept God OUT of all that they purchassed actually.

Another feature of scientists is spreading and using the good of science everywhere.

They spread stuff alright.

Biblically, and simply said, anyone who is verbally mean, is a liar, some of the time, and they exist for self. To them, you and I exist for them.

Who is a liar but he that denieth the Jesus is the Christ?

 

[katerinah1947]

Hi, (Edits done now)

Most prophesy about Jesus is about the return and rule actually. You are wrong.

Yes Jesus returning is talked about.

On that you are totally right.

He Jesus, even told us what to look for.

I and everyone like me, has been seeing those signs, ever since Jesus Spoke Those Words.

Jesus ~spoke other words too, about that. He said, that even he does not know the date of the end. Only his father does~

Those last words by Jesus, tell us that fixing a date is always wrong, ~Unless God The Father pays you a personal visit and gives you that date~

If God The Father gave you a date, Personally like in Peter's case with Jesus being who Jesus is, then by all means, that is the correct date.

So, I am wrong here on Only The Father Knowing When The End Is?

Since, God The Father Gave you that date. Since you wrote a date here. I will prepare then, for God The Father really gave us all that Date, and not you.,

Of course, you still have to prove to Christians and Civilians everywhere, that you are a fig.

I believe you and will prepare now, prophet of God.

Since with Prophecy all things must be exact like it is said in Deuteronomy 18:20-22 or so, are you allowed to tell us more, on the exact day, or time of day, or not?

They kept God OUT of all that they purchassed actually.

Please stop saying things that you are guessing at.

They spread stuff alright.

And lots of it is Biblical.

Who is a liar but he that denieth the Jesus is the Christ?

And therefore are you saying that Matthew 7:15-16 is not true?

Are you saying that people who are mean in all walks of life, are not Wolves in Sheeps Clothing?

Have you just negated, Matthew 7:15-16????????

If you have, that would be scary right now, but I will listen.

Should I remove those passages and their meanings from my Bible?

LOVE,

 

[dad]

Hi, (Edits done now)



Yes Jesus returning is talked about.

On that you are totally right.

He Jesus, even told us what to look for.

I and everyone like me, has been seeing those signs, ever since Jesus Spoke Those Words.

Jesus ~spoke other words too, about that. He said, that even he does not know the date of the end. Only his father does~

Those last words by Jesus, tell us that fixing a date is always wrong, ~Unless God The Father pays you a personal visit and gives you that date~

If God The Father gave you a date, Personally like in Peter's case with Jesus being who Jesus is, then by all means, that is the correct date.

So, I am wrong here on Only The Father Knowing When The End Is?

Since, God The Father Gave you that date. Since you wrote a date here. I will prepare then, for God The Father really gave us all that Date, and not you.,

Of course, you still have to prove to Christians and Civilians everywhere, that you are a fig.

I believe you and will prepare now, prophet of God.

Since with Prophecy all things must be exact like it is said in Deuteronomy 18:20-22 or so, are you allowed to tell us more, on the exact day, or time of day, or not?



Please stop saying things that you are guessing at.



And lots of it is Biblical.



And therefore are you saying that Matthew 7:15-16 is not true?

Are you saying that people who are mean in all walks of life, are not Wolves in Sheeps Clothing?

Have you just negated, Matthew 7:15-16????????

If you have, that would be scary right now, but I will listen.

Should I remove those passages and their meanings from my Bible?

LOVE,

Depends what you think mean is. Exposing evil and lies may seem mean to some. No we do not now know the day of the second coming.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Either way in the end people will receive according to their deeds.

Paul and the False Apostles 2cor11:14
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds.

Well that's good news of a sort, though many other Christians would disagree with you. At least it looks like most atheists would be welcome into heaven by your standards.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The general belief is that Christians suffer in this life. That is what shows us they are son and daughters of God. The so called atheists will suffer when they have made a completion of sin. If they do not repent and turn away from sin while they are still alive then we are told their suffering well begin when this life ends.

Heb 12 6 "MY SON, DO NOT REGARD LIGHTLY THE DISCIPLINE OF THE LORD, NOR FAINT WHEN YOU ARE REPROVED BY HIM; 6FOR THOSE WHOM THE LORD LOVES HE DISCIPLINES, AND HE SCOURGES EVERY SON WHOM HE RECEIVES."7It is for discipline that you endure; God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom his father does not discipline?…

Atheists seem to be more moral than most Christians. At least according to Christian standards. They have very low out of wedlock birthrates, divorce rates, and clearly much much lower rates of breaking the law than Christians do. So it looks like we are golden.