Where is a "6000 year old earth" found in scripture?

[greenguzzi]

I'm just a student and lover of the Word of God, and an observer of what goes on around me....
For someone who loves the Word, the world of science so called, is lacking in explaining the simplest acts of God and the plainest statements made in His Word.
The Holy Spirit "brooded over the waters" is a plain and powerful statement. Like a mother hen on her nest, is the picture painted by the words used, and that is the beginning of the infusing the "life" in the elements of the waters of creation.
That's my studied opinion, and I'm stuck with it....in fact, I like it very much. I don't need to understand the science God used for infusing the elements of creation with life, but with my simple, believing mind, I see it as the beginning of His infusing the elements in the waters of creation with the life force that He would use to organize those elements into every single created thing that was brought into being, out of the waters of the creation in the six days of creation week.
It is an electric universe. There are those who demonstrate the facts of it who are men of science who are not Bible believers, but who do demonstrate the powers of the creation are electric in nature, and powerful electro-magnetic forces run the entire universe.

But for those who deny it, they cannot explain the spark of life infused in all created beings, nor can they explain how the creation is held together by the forces of creation, nor can they tell what the pillars of earth and heaven are, which Enoch said were "winds", which translates to currents of great electro-magnetic power, in my understanding.
Enoch also showed that the waters above the heavens and the waters below are kept in place by magnetic powers in them, which he named as two "monsters", Leviathan and Behemoth, male and female....now that was something so scientific that the translators did not know how to understand it, so they left it alone.
The sun is electric, also, and gathers the light from the currents given it from the created light, by the stars....There is proof abundant that the stars and sun are electric, and the Electric Universe web sites have lots of that info for anyone who wants to study it.
As to the sun itself, the Word itself states that the Creator has set His tabernacle/dwelling place, in the sun, in the original Hebrew, the Greek Septuagint, the Latin Vulgate, and the Douay-Rheims English.
Now that is the doctrine of the original Word, and it is a much more interesting creation when one seeks understanding from the Word, even though they are not "engineers", but love the Word itself.

The stuff you say about the Word is fine, I'd probably agree with you on all the most important things. I do love The Word, and I study it carefully.

The fact that you aren't interested in science is ok. I think it's misguided, but no big deal. I also know from your very words that you don't actually have a clue what science is. But fine, if you don't want to learn, then so be it. Plenty of people like that live good harmless lives.

But then you go on to say that you believe in some fantasy pseudo-science woo. That cannot be left unchallenged. Propagating this nonsense is like encouraging people to read their horoscopes, or investigate ley-lines, or use homoeopaths. This demeans science, and - worse - makes Christians look like fools to those who do understand science.

By all means divorce science from faith, that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do. But to marry our faith to pseudo-science is a very dangerous thing to do. It's a form of syncretism of the worst kind.

 

[Riberra]

So the rest of the story is still happening, and the Redeemer is come to ransom us back for Himself, only in His New Man name, and take us to our heavenly home to rule and reign with Him there, as our Firstborn, and to regenerate the heavens and the earth in the 8th day, which is the New Beginning, signed in the living oracles, and to "Plant the heavens" with the sons of God who will be pillars in His temple "not made with hands" for the Glory to indwell, but in the name of "Israel", the New Man name [Isaiah 49], not in the name of Adam, the fallen and irrevocably defiled, former son of God [Luke 3:38].

Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

Jesus in Revelation 3:12 is not saying that He will take His believers to Heaven before the Tribulation.
Jesus is making the promise to those who will OVERCOME (be faithfull) till the End, a place in New Jerusalem when New Jesusalem will come down from Heaven to the Earth -Revelation 21.-

The Bible is clear we will Reign with Jesus on the Earth...not in Heaven.
Revelation 20:1-6

And after the Millennium have passed we will have access to New Jerusalem coming down from Heaven to Earth Revelation 21... Revelation 22

 

[yeshuasavedme]

Jesus in Revelation 3:12 is not saying that He will take His believers to Heaven before the Tribulation.
Jesus is making the promise to those who will OVERCOME (be faithfull) till the End, a place in New Jerusalem when New Jesusalem will come down from Heaven to the Earth -Revelation 21.-

The Bible is clear we will Reign with Jesus on the Earth.
Revelation 20.

Those who reign from heaven will not dwell on earth for the millennial reign, but there will be free coming and going again, like it was in the beginning.
For that reason, we see that when Satan and his hordes are let out of Sheol for a little while to test and try the offspring born to the "Blessed of YHWH" of the sheep Gentiles and elect Jews who pass through the judgment at the return of Jesus and enter into the kingdom of God come to earth to marry and populate the earth for the thousand year Sabbath, that Satan tempts the ones who believe his lies to attempt to ascend to the City of God in the "outstretched breadth of the earth" and to take it over.
Then fire comes down from God out of heaven and they are destroyed....then, the end of the present creation and the regeneration of the heavens and the earth for the "New Beginning".

 

[yeshuasavedme]

The stuff you say about the Word is fine, I'd probably agree with you on all the most important things. I do love The Word, and I study it carefully.

The fact that you aren't interested in science is ok. I think it's misguided, but no big deal. I also know from your very words that you don't actually have a clue what science is. But fine, if you don't want to learn, then so be it. Plenty of people like that live good harmless lives.

But then you go on to say that you believe in some fantasy pseudo-science woo. That cannot be left unchallenged. Propagating this nonsense is like encouraging people to read their horoscopes, or investigate ley-lines, or use homoeopaths. This demeans science, and - worse - makes Christians look like fools to those who do understand science.

By all means divorce science from faith, that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do. But to marry our faith to pseudo-science is a very dangerous thing to do. It's a form of syncretism of the worst kind.

Sorry, but I love "science", but not "science so called". That's a pretty broad generalization you made, and everyone who does anything in the world has to know some true science of the things they do, as far as that goes.
I also do not care to know how God did it all, or keeps it all, and I do believe Him and find enough real science in the Word itself to delight my soul with what He does say....

 

[Riberra]

Those who reign from heaven will not dwell on earth for the millennial reign, but there will be free coming and going again, like it was in the beginning.

God the Father will continue to Reign in Heaven while that the Resurrected Church and the believers still alive and remain will Reign on the Earth with Jesus during the Millennium .

1 Corinthians 15
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming---> Revelation 20

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.----> Revelation 21 ....Revelation 22[/b]

 

[yeshuasavedme]

God the Father will continue to Reign in Heaven while that the Resurrected Church and the believers still alive and remain will Reign on the Earth with Jesus during the Millennium .

Nope. Jesus is coming to get me to take me to be with Him where He is, and if I am found faithful, He will give me a job to do over the earth below....he's resetting the entire pillars of earth -the heavenly rulers which have gone rogue, as He states in Psalm 75:2,3, at the time of the rapture and tribulation.
There's going to be a mighty war in the heavens after the congregation of the LORD is raptured and resurrected in regenerated bodies, and the LORD is resetting the rulers in the heavenlies with the raptured and glorified saints that are found faithful to rule.

But as for myself: look for me in heaven's libraries. That's where I really, really, want to spend a lot of time...

 

[Riberra]

Nope. Jesus is coming to get me to take me to be with Him where He is, and if I am found faithful, He will give me a job to do over the earth below....he's resetting the entire pillars of earth -the heavenly rulers which have gone rogue, as He states in Psalm 75:2,3, at the time of the rapture and tribulation.
There's going to be a mighty war in the heavens after the congregation of the LORD is raptured and resurrected in regenerated bodies, and the LORD is resetting the rulers in the heavenlies with the raptured and glorified saints that are found faithful to rule.

But as for myself: look for me in heaven's libraries. That's where I really, really, want to spend a lot of time...

Surely not by a pre-tribulation rapture of the Church to Heaven .There is no such thing written in the Bible.

When a believer die his SOUL goes to Heaven...actually there are hundred of millions of Souls of dead believers which are in Heaven waiting for their resurrection.


Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

Overcometh what if you think that you will not be there ?

 

[greenguzzi]

Well, I am int
Sorry, but I love "science", but not "science so called". That's a pretty broad generalization you made, and everyone who does anything in the world has to know some true science of the things they do, as far as that goes.
I also do not care to know how God did it all, or keeps it all, and I do believe Him and find enough real science in the Word itself to delight my soul with what He does say....

As I said, your words reveal that you don't know what science is. I can point some of those words out to you if you like, but I doubt you would want that.
And given that you don't know what science is, it's kind of hard to believe that you love it.

I'm not sure what you mean by "science so called". Maybe you have redefined the word "science" to mean something different to what the rest of us take it to mean. In which case it might be more helpful if you used a different word.

Good science (the usual definition of the word) is compatible with The Word. The vast majority of science is good science. The minority which isn't good is, with a little training, fairly easy to test for.

The electric universe is not science, it's fantasy. if you try to integrate it into your study of the word it will result in bad theology. You might as well try to integrate the Star Wars movies into your Bible study for all the good it will do you.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

As I said, your words reveal that you don't know what science is. I can point some of those words out to you if you like, but I doubt you would want that.
And given that you don't know what science is, it's kind of hard to believe that you love it.

I'm not sure what you mean by "science so called". Maybe you have redefined the word "science" to mean something different to what the rest of us take it to mean. In which case it might be more helpful if you used a different word.

Good science (the usual definition of the word) is compatible with The Word. The vast majority of science is good science. The minority which isn't good is, with a little training, fairly easy to test for.

The electric universe is not science, it's fantasy. if you try to integrate it into your study of the word it will result in bad theology. You might as well try to integrate the Star Wars movies into your Bible study for all the good it will do you.

I do not agree with your opinions. I like mine better than yours.
Science so called is what men believe falsely, which opposes the plain written Word of God. Those into "science so called" judge the Word of God, instead of letting the Word of God judge them.

1Ti 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

 

[rockytopva]

You can read the book of Genesis and trace the history back to a point.

3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:
4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:
5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
6 And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos:
7 And Seth lived after he begat Enos eight hundred and seven years, and begat sons and daughters:
8 And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died.
9 And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan:
10 And Enos lived after he begat Cainan eight hundred and fifteen years, and begat sons and daughters:
11 And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he died.
12 And Cainan lived seventy years and begat Mahalaleel:
13 And Cainan lived after he begat Mahalaleel eight hundred and forty years, and begat sons and daughters:
14 And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years: and he died.
15 And Mahalaleel lived sixty and five years, and begat Jared:
16 And Mahalaleel lived after he begat Jared eight hundred and thirty years, and begat sons and daughters:
17 And all the days of Mahalaleel were eight hundred ninety and five years: and he died.
18 And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch:
19 And Jared lived after he begat Enoch eight hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:
20 And all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years: and he died.
21 And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:
22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:
23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:
24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
25 And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat Lamech.
26 And Methuselah lived after he begat Lamech seven hundred eighty and two years, and begat sons and daughters:
27 And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died.
28 And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son:
29 And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the Lord hath cursed.
30 And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and five years, and begat sons and daughters:
31 And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven years: and he died.
32 And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth. - Genesis 5

... Do the math

 

[Riberra]

You can read the book of Genesis and trace the history back to a point.

3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:

That point goes to when Adam was created in the Garden of Eden.....mentioned in Genesis 2.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

Surely not by a pre-tribulation rapture of the Church to Heaven .There is no such thing written in the Bible.

When a believer die his SOUL goes to Heaven...actually thereare hundred of millions of Souls of dead believers which are in Heaven waiting for their resurrection.


Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

Overcometh what if you think that you will not be there ?

But indeed it is. It is taught as the doctrine of Christ in the Living Oracles committed to the namesake people of the New Man name, to rehearse until all is fulfilled.
I have written on it on this forum.
http://www.christianforums.com/thre...day-and-israels-time-for-restoration.7879917/

 

[greenguzzi]

I do not agree with your opinions. I like mine better than yours.
Science so called is what men believe falsely, which opposes the plain written Word of God. Those into "science so called" judge the Word of God, instead of letting the Word of God judge them.

1Ti 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

Science isn't about opinions. Science is about facts, hypotheses, theories, and laws.

**Those into "science so called" judge the Word of God, instead of letting the Word of God judge them.**​

I totally agree. But that's not the issue here. The issue is you allowing a fantasy to taint your study of the Word.

You are free to have your opinions, and I am free to call you out as wrong when you misrepresent science.

 

[rockytopva]

God has the ability to send strong dilution, that folk may believe a lie (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2 Thessalonians+2:9-12&version=KJV). The period of mankind is 6,000 years with a millennial of peace after the great tribulation. Seven thousand years, with maybe a few hundred years thrown in as years of grace.

 

[Riberra]

But indeed it is. It is taught as the doctrine of Christ in the Living Oracles committed to the namesake people of the New Man name, to rehearse until all is fulfilled.
I have written on it on this forum.
http://www.christianforums.com/thre...day-and-israels-time-for-restoration.7879917/

There will be no Rapture of the Church before the Tribulation

We will meet the Lord in the air when Jesus will come down from Heaven to Establish His Kingdom on the Earth .


1 Thessalonians 4:15-17King James Version (KJV)

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

At this moment Jesus will not return to Heaven but will begin to Reign on Earth with His Saints. Revelation 20:4-6

 

[yeshuasavedme]

Yes. all the way back to the creation week.
It really was not so very long ago, compared to the promised unending future of the heavens and the earth, and the sun and the moon and the stars
You know, Noah and Shem were alive when Abram was born, and Noah did not die until Abram was 58 years old. Then Shem outlived Abraham, not dying until Jacob was 50 years old!
Jacob entered Egypt age 130, only 80 years after Shem died, and Israel departed Egypt 210 years later, only 290 years after Shem died, and 430 years after the land promise was given to Abraham.
Shem lived for 140 years after the promise was given to Abraham -and even was the king of righteousness, priest of the Most High God in the Patriarchal line from Adam through to Noah, who blessed Abram in Genesis 14.

That point goes to when Adam was created in the Garden of Eden.....mentioned in Genesis 2.

You can read the book of Genesis and trace the history back to a point.

3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:
4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:
5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
6 And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos:
7 And Seth lived after he begat Enos eight hundred and seven years, and begat sons and daughters:
8 And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died.
9 And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan:
10 And Enos lived after he begat Cainan eight hundred and fifteen years, and begat sons and daughters:
11 And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he died.
12 And Cainan lived seventy years and begat Mahalaleel:
13 And Cainan lived after he begat Mahalaleel eight hundred and forty years, and begat sons and daughters:
14 And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years: and he died.
15 And Mahalaleel lived sixty and five years, and begat Jared:
16 And Mahalaleel lived after he begat Jared eight hundred and thirty years, and begat sons and daughters:
17 And all the days of Mahalaleel were eight hundred ninety and five years: and he died.
18 And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch:
19 And Jared lived after he begat Enoch eight hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:
20 And all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years: and he died.
21 And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:
22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:
23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:
24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
25 And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat Lamech.
26 And Methuselah lived after he begat Lamech seven hundred eighty and two years, and begat sons and daughters:
27 And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died.
28 And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son:
29 And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the Lord hath cursed.
30 And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and five years, and begat sons and daughters:
31 And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven years: and he died.
32 And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth. - Genesis 5

... Do the math

 

[Riberra]

God has the ability to send strong dilution, that folk may believe a lie (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2 Thessalonians+2:9-12&version=KJV). The period of mankind is 6,000 years with a millennial of peace after the great tribulation.

I believe that we will have a millennial of peace after the great tribulation.That will be when Jesus will reign on the Earth with His Saints. Revelation 20:4-6

 

[yeshuasavedme]

Science isn't about opinions. Science is about facts, hypotheses, theories, and laws.

**Those into "science so called" judge the Word of God, instead of letting the Word of God judge them.**​

I totally agree. But that's not the issue here. The issue is you allowing a fantasy to taint your study of the Word.

You are free to have your opinions, and I am free to call you out as wrong when you misrepresent science.

Science is not an "entity", and what you are generalizing is not "science".
Men who claim anything in opposition to the Word of God in its plain and simple truth about creation and the age of the earth are not "scientists", and their "science" is falsely so called.
No man was there until day 6, and could not observe the 6 days of creation week, when God created the heavens and the earth and all that in them is, in 6 days of normal evenings and mornings, and crowned it all with the creation of Adam, the firstborn of our human being kind race, whom He made in His own image/likeness =bodily likeness, as Romans 5:14 confirms, and as Ezekiel 1 also confirms, as God states in Genesis 1.

So the Word of God stands as true scientific fact on the creation week, and is not open to man changing or denying it. It is foundational truth on the creation week, and the time is not unknown, but is known down to the year and the week, using the chronology given from the beginning in the history Book of Jasher [Book of the Upright], which corroborates totally with the Torah account.
As to the writing of Genesis 1 and 2, that was written in heaven, first, in the "Scripture of Truth" [Read Daniel 10:21,in the original, using concordance, for corroboration on the "Scripture of Truth" written in heaven], and it was written "for the sons of God to read and know what would befall the sons of Adam from the beginning to the New Creation on the 8th day" -as Enoch said in his book.
Adam was there, in the third heaven, in Paradise, and was "Adam son of God" [Luke 3:38] and Adam read it as a son of God, in Eden, before the fall, and wrote it on earth below for his descendants to read. Moses copied from copies of what Adam had written, which Adam read in the Scripture of Truth, in heaven, and Adam told what God said about His creating all that is, in 6 days...for it is the history of "The generations of the heavens and the earth", as God generated them.
This is how I understand it after much study....
God told us what He did, and it is all written in the Scripture of Truth in heaven....as Enoch said, and as the messenger told Daniel about, in Daniel 10:21.


Enoch saw and read the "tablets of heaven" written there by God the Word, and knew what would befall the sons of Adam from beginning to end. Before Adam was driven out [divorced/cut off, is the word used in Hebrew] and cast down [fell/naphal, as the Word says, and Adam is the fallen prince, former son of God, who is dead as a son of God since the fall Psalm 82 in Hebrew, says Adam is dead, and fallen/cast down and not a son of God], and what Moses wrote in all the Torah was taken from what God told him to write by inspiration, and redacted as to the histories of what Moses wrote, for the books he used were still in circulation [portions of copies of them are found in the Dead Sea Scroll manuscripts, of those histories of the Patriarchs], and the text of creation was not invented out of nothing, but what Moses had full access to, as a son of Levi [who was the elected and given son of Jacob to serve in the priesthood when God would establish them as the head of the nations, as He had already given them the dreams and visions and the Word that He would do so, as the testimonies in the DSS also prove].

 

[Riberra]

Yes,all the way back to creation week.

Rather,
All the way back to the creation of Adam in the Garden of Eden after the 7th Day of Rest.

If you read attentively Genesis 2 you will notice That Adam and the Garden of Eden, were created after the 6 th Day of Creation and after the 7th Day of Rest.

Here what an attentive reading of Genesis reveal us....
-God created mankind on the 6th day Genesis 1:26-28 -Male and female He created THEM.-
-God created Adam and Eve after the 6th day of creation and after the 7Th day of rest.... and isolated them from the humans created on the 6th day for a special purpose Genesis 2


Here a little equation that you will have a hard time to solve if you believe that Adam and Eve were the only Humans on Earth.

The Bible tell us that Cain was cast out of Eden as soon as he killed Abel....Based on the text Cain was a young man
probably betwen 16 and 20 years old when he killed his twin brother Abel ...that leave us with 3 humans on the whole Earth based on mainstream and historical Christianity ....
Question:
-If there was nobody outside the Garden of Eden how do you explain Cain's fear of being slain by humans outside of the Garden of Eden when God cast him out ?
-From where came Cain's wife?
-For whom Cain builded a city?

Genesis 4

13 And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear.

14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.

15 And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

16 And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

You have gone way outside of the written Word and written histories of the Patriarchs and have no foundation for your myth.
Cain was afraid of the Watchers [Daniel chapter 4 and the Book of Enoch tells of their duties, plus Psalm 82, in the Hebrew, and Gabriel and Michael and Raphael and Uriel and 3 others are named as chief watchers, in Enoch and in Orthodox Bibles.
The Watcher angels are the judges [Hebrew, "the Dan"], and princes who rule over earth for God, since the fall, who do justice and avenge for blood. Abel prophesied [Abel was a prophet, says Jesus, because the histories of the Jews tell us Abel's prophecy] that God would avenge his blood if Cain killed him. Cain did kill him. Cain then feared the avengers of blood, the Judges over earth, and God gave him a promise [a token is a promise] that the avengers of blood would not kill him. Cain did not dwell in Eden, where his father and mother were driven out/ divorced/cut off, from the Spirit of the Father of Glory -and they had no children in Eden.
Any children born of the first father and mother are defiled, for our flesh is irrevocably defiled in Adam and our souls are unclean and our spirit is dead, in Adam, to the Father of Glory, since the fall.
We are all Adam, in the Word of God. that is what God named us, which means earth blood, from adamah, and dam.

Cain was a married farmer when he killed Abel, and Abel was a sheepherder with his own land.
Cain went wandering/nod, in the land, which is wrongly translated land of Nod, and he had no access to the borders/gates of Eden where the border sacrifices were offered [The chinese continued the ancient border sacrifice for millennia, even, for as Paul said, "All nations once knew God", and knew the promise of redemption and the story of the fall of our first father and us in him. Even the ancient Chinese Oracle bone-writing tells the entire story of the fall from glory, in the characters used in the writing, and of being cast down from the presence of the Glory and of the promise of the Redemption to come, "under the lamb", and of the flood of Noah, and so on..].

Cain offered inferior produce from his land, not the best, and disrespected God, and after being banned from even approaching to offer sacrifice, went wandering in the land, and his wife was a sister or a niece or... on down.
Adam and Eve had other children, but the main characters in the story only, are entered in the Torah. The Jewish writings say they had 33 children -I think, but I may misremember. BTW: Eve was black, Cain black, Abel red, and Adam white., and their sons up to Seth were nopt white, like Adam, for Seth was the first white son born to Adam -"in his image", as the dream visions of world history given to Enoch show us, by parables of the totemic history of the tribes of the nations, given to Enoch.

Cain went wandering/nod in the land, but he did finally settle and built a city, after all.
Until after the fall of Babel, man on earth below could go to the gates of Eden -to the gates of heaven, and never into heaven, just to the gate of entry, below - and since the fall of the tower of Babel, the veil is over mankind so that he cannot even see to approach unless God opens his eyes, like Jacob's were opened when he saw the angels ascending and descending the "ladder"....

Rather,
All the way back to the creation of Adam in the Garden of Eden after the 7th Day of Rest.

If you read attentively Genesis 2 you will notice That Adam and the Garden of Eden, were created after the 6 th Day of Creation and after the 7th Day of Rest.

Here what an attentive reading of Genesis reveal us....
-God created mankind on the 6th day Genesis 1:26-28 -Male and female He created THEM.-
-God created Adam and Eve after the 6th day of creation and after the 7Th day of rest.... and isolated them from the humans created on the 6th day for a special purpose Genesis 2


Here a little equation that you will have a hard time to solve if you believe that Adam and Eve were the only Humans on Earth.

The Bible tell us that Cain was cast out of Eden as soon as he killed Abel....Based on the text Cain was a young man
probably betwen 16 and 20 years old when he killed his twin brother Abel ...that leave us with 3 humans on the whole Earth based on mainstream and historical Christianity ....
Question:
-If there was nobody outside the Garden of Eden how do you explain Cain's fear of being slain by humans outside of the Garden of Eden when God cast him out ?
-From where came Cain's wife?
-For whom Cain builded a city?

Genesis 4

13 And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear.

14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.

15 And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

16 And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.