Evolution Promotes Brutality

[PsychoSarah]

Which one wore the shirt that said NATURAL SELECTION?

Klebold or Harris?

I already said that bad people associating themselves with evolution doesn't make evolution wrong or immoral. If that reasoning were valid, there would be more evidence that religion was immoral than any scientific theory.

 

[AV1611VET]

I'd say why you're wrong, but I know it won't matter since you'll be right back to using that 'example' to say that evolution is wrong.

Um ... you can't say why I'm wrong.

It's an either/or question.

It was either Klebold, or it was Harris.

 

[AV1611VET]

I already said that bad people associating themselves with evolution doesn't make evolution wrong or immoral. If that reasoning were valid, there would be more evidence that religion was immoral than any scientific theory.

Evolution supports a mindset that lowers morals.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Um ... you can't say why I'm wrong.

It's an either/or question.

It was either Klebold, or it was Harris.

The one who wasn't wearing the shirt that said KILL THEM ALL; GOD KNOWS HIS OWN.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Um ... you can't say why I'm wrong.

It's an either/or question.

It was either Klebold, or it was Harris.

And you're using it in an attempt to make the theory of evolution look bad.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Evolution supports a mindset that lowers morals.

No more so than institutionalized Christianity. In fact, probably less so.

Evolution only predicts that members if a certain group will act in their own self interest, even if that means those outside the group will suffer. Christianity, with its focus on the "saved and "unsaved," encourages and rewards such behavior.

 

[TLK Valentine]

And you're using it in an attempt to make the theory of evolution look bad.

And a pathetic attempt, at that.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

And a pathetic attempt, at that.

I'm sure he's been called out on it before.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Evolution supports a mindset that lowers morals.

At worst, only in the very ignorant, not in people that understand the material, and the fact that evolution has nothing to say about morality, because it is science, not philosophy.

 

[AV1611VET]

And you're using it in an attempt to make the theory of evolution look bad.

That's right.

 

[TLK Valentine]

That's right.

And failing miserably as always.

 

[AV1611VET]

Evolution only predicts that members if a certain group will act in their own self interest, even if that means those outside the group will suffer.

Predictions can fail.

What evolution predicts is of no concern to me.

Evolution destroys morals.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Predictions can fail.

What evolution predicts is of no concern to me.

Evolution destroys morals.

And yet you're the one lying in order to discredit it.

I suppose evolution's to blame for that as well?

 

[AV1611VET]

... and the fact that evolution has nothing to say about morality, because it is science, not philosophy.

I'd keep my mouth shut about morals too, if I was evolution.

Unless, of course, evolution wants to open it to tell a lie.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I'd keep my mouth shut about morals too, if I was evolution.

Probably best at this point if you keep your mouth shut about morals in general...

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

That's right.

And doing a ruddy poor job at it. I could as easily use the fact that the soldiers of the Waffen SS wore "GOTT MIT UNS" on their belt-buckles to say that Christianity is wrong.
It wouldn't be factual, and it certainly wouldn't be true, but it's basically the same sort of logic that you're using.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Evolution destroys morals.

Evolution says nothing about morals. Evolution describes a biological fact. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Evolution says nothing about morals. Evolution describes a biological fact. Nothing more, nothing less.

Facts are not AV's forte.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Facts are not AV's forte.

I am moderately certain he has said "facts can take a hike".
Although he says so many things can take a hike, I could be mistaken.

 

[Goonie]

I am moderately certain he has said "facts can take a hike".
Although he says so many things can take a hike, I could be mistaken.

Has he said "hillwalkers can take a hike" yet?