There is no Creation Debate

[dad]

Now if I wanted to be nasty I cold point out that many Christians make a false idol of the Bible and call that "biblism". ...

Jesus said not one little jot or tittle could fail, and that the Scripture could not be broken. He also said it gives life, and that they are spirit and life. Is He guilty in your little sordid books too?

 

[dad]

I thought that dad was right for once.

He was.

but that is only because his side lost over 100 years ago.

The poor dolts that misunderstood evidences and held up the results of their ignorant charade as some sort of evidence God was wrong o wrong those long years ago were weak in faith, or worse.

 

[dad]

We have ice cores that go back hundreds of thousands of years.

Actually you have ignorant faith based dating that is misused in a shameful godless way.

If there had been a flood the original ice would have floated away and we would not have these ice cores.

If the flood was somewhere near the KT layer as I suspect (at least for now, subject to evidences) then the ice came after the flood. Gong.

 

[pat34lee]

I thought that dad was right for once. He is right that there is no debate, but that is only because his side lost over 100 years ago. Now all we have is rather foolish denial.

Denial by the evolutionists and compromise by the ID'ers.

 

[pat34lee]

So you want people to take a debate between a convicted liar and an honest man seriously?

Let's start with you then. Convicted liar? That is a lie in itself, and if you
don't know it, you should not talk about him at all.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Who really cares!? Unbelief is ugly in any dress.

Wrong. Atheism is far more beautiful than false beliefs.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Jesus said not one little jot or tittle could fail, and that the Scripture could not be broken. He also said it gives life, and that they are spirit and life. Is He guilty in your little sordid books too?

Wrong, people that wrote the Bible said that Jesus said that. It does not mean that Jesus said that. And there he was talking about the laws of the Old Testament. He was not talking about the scientific errors of the Bible.

 

[Subduction Zone]

He was.

Wrong, as usual he quickly showed that he was wrong.



The poor dolts that misunderstood evidences and held up the results of their ignorant charade as some sort of evidence God was wrong o wrong those long years ago were weak in faith, or worse.[/QUOTE]

No one has said that God was wrong. Where do you get those crazy ideas from? And yes, creationist dolts continually misinterpret the evidence. dad, you are frothing a bit. You are making even less sense than usual.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Actually you have ignorant faith based dating that is misused in a shameful godless way.

Wrong again dad. Faith is your flaw not mine. And ignorance is doubly your flaw.

If the flood was somewhere near the KT layer as I suspect (at least for now, subject to evidences) then the ice came after the flood. Gong.

Well of course the ice came after the KT boundary. That was about 65 million years ago. The ice came about 60 million years later.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Denial by the evolutionists and compromise by the ID'ers.

I am never in denial. I can support my claims with reliable evidence, something that you are unable to do.

 

[Cimorene]

True. There is absolutely nothing to debate about creationism.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Let's start with you then. Convicted liar? That is a lie in itself, and if you
don't know it, you should not talk about him at all.

Kent lied when he said that he did not have to withhold taxes for his employees. He also lied by dishonestly removing money from his bank account in a manner that the thought would enable him not to pay taxes. He was convicted for those crimes. He had over 50 charges against him and he was found guilty on all fiftyeight charges:

"The trial concluded on November 1 with the defense deciding not to present a case.[136] After closing arguments were presented on November 2, the jury deliberated three hours before finding the Hovinds guilty on all counts, 58 for Hovind and 45 for his wife."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_Hovind

But I tell you what. Give me his best argument and I will gladly show you how he was wrong.

 

[dad]

Wrong. Atheism is far more beautiful than false beliefs.

Good guys, 10...bad guys 0.

 

[dad]

Wrong again dad. Faith is your flaw not mine. And ignorance is doubly your flaw.



Well of course the ice came after the KT boundary. That was about 65 million years ago. The ice came about 60 million years later.

In other words the flood was something like 4500 years ago, and the KT layer that many real years ago also. Imaginary years do not any longer impress in any way. Lose em.

 

[dad]

No one has said that God was wrong. Where do you get those crazy ideas from? And yes, creationist dolts continually misinterpret the evidence. dad, you are frothing a bit. You are making even less sense than usual...

Do YOU admit then that Jesus formed Adam, and created the world? That is what Scripture says.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Good guys, 10...bad guys 0.

I don't know if you are losing that badly, but if those are the numbers that you want to cite that is fine with me.

 

[Subduction Zone]

In other words the flood was something like 4500 years ago, and the KT layer that many real years ago also. Imaginary years do not any longer impress in any way. Lose em.

Don't be silly dad, we all know that ice floats.

 

[dad]

Wrong. Atheism is far more beautiful than false beliefs.

Hopelessness and death and meaninglessness don't really cut the mustard actually.

 

[dad]

Don't be silly dad, we all know that ice floats.

We are not talking about your drinking habits here, sorry.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Do YOU admit then that Jesus formed Adam, and created the world? That is what Scripture says.

Where? And if it says that it only means that your source is even less reliable than I thought.