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Why is homosexuality wrong if it's not long term?

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I'm heterosexual, but have had encounters with another woman. I have never been in a relationship with her and to me being friends with benefits with her is harmless as I have no interest in being in a long term relationship and I am happy with my bf. Neither of us actually date women. And I haven't been with another woman. Mainly it was for experimental reasons. I started having sex with her when I was 17 and a virgin and new sexuality in general but I guess curious. I don't have any regrets either though. To me it was more of an experiment. I am a Christian and from a religious family but I can't see how it's wrong if there's no relationship? I am religious and I feel more guilt about being sexually active with my bf than having lesbian sex. I'd think that sex with a man outside of marriage would be more of a sin?
 
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Even originally I didn't feel it was wrong because I knew I liked guys just that I was generally new to my own sexuality. I didn't see the risk though. It's hard to really see one if you're not normal interested in the same sex.

The human organism is relationship oriented. There is no such thing as casual sex.
People will mistakenly treat sex casually, or relationships casually, but relationships
reach deep into the human makeup and have profound impact.

The scriptures are not clear on this, but the whole issue was casual sex.
Not sex with the wrong class of partner - but sex with no class.
 
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The human organism is relationship oriented. There is no such thing as casual sex.
People will mistakenly treat sex casually, or relationships casually, but relationships
reach deep into the human makeup and have profound impact.

The scriptures are not clear on this, but the whole issue was casual sex.
Not sex with the wrong class of partner - but sex with no class.
Yeah at the time we both dated men. If anything I felt like it was a vehicle to the next step in my own sexuality and future relationships. And heterosexual sex is more about relationships for me personally. Idk maybe it's the lack of an emotional attraction women. But for me lesbian sex is just that. I have heard there are plenty people who are sexually but not mentally attracted to a specific sex/gender.
 
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Yeah at the time we both dated men. If anything I felt like it was a vehicle to the next step in my own sexuality and future relationships. And heterosexual sex is more about relationships for me personally. Idk maybe it's the lack of an emotional attraction women. But for me lesbian sex is just that. I have heard there are plenty people who are sexually but not mentally attracted to a specific sex/gender.

And then there are potential partners who are not biologically gender specific.
What do we do with them except relate to them the need to take sex seriously.

Not XX and not XY - one in 1,666 births
Klinefelter (XXY) - one in 1,000 births
 
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And then there are potential partners who are not biologically gender specific.
What do we do with them except relate to them the need to take sex seriously.

Not XX and not XY - one in 1,666 births
Klinefelter (XXY) - one in 1,000 births


well it goes back to who you date and settle down with. Either way. That's what it boils down to.
 
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"Why is homosexuality wrong if it's not long term?"

Why is homosexuality wrong if it is long term?


I mean, what kind of exception are you trying to carve out for yourself? It's okay if I do it with the same person multiple times, but we are totally not dating. But if we were dating, then it would be wrong?
 
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I am religious and I feel more guilt about being sexually active with my bf than having lesbian sex.

Why? Sex is something to be enjoyed by two consenting adults. It's nobody's business but you and your boyfriend.

I'd think that sex with a man outside of marriage would be more of a sin?

Why would natural human behavior be sinful? I don't understand why so many Christians are concerned about what two people do while naked. As long as you're being safe and the sex is consensual, I don't see anything 'sinful' about it. It's natural.
 
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"Why is homosexuality wrong if it's not long term?"

Why is homosexuality wrong if it is long term?


I mean, what kind of exception are you trying to carve out for yourself? It's okay if I do it with the same person multiple times, but we are totally not dating. But if we were dating, then it would be wrong?


Well personally it's not something I'd do if I were dating or single. For me it was more experimental. Mainly like I said I was new to my own sexuality so I had to figure it out and I think many people expirement when they're younger I don't really think that's a sin.
 
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The human organism is relationship oriented. There is no such thing as casual sex.
People will mistakenly treat sex casually, or relationships casually, but relationships
reach deep into the human makeup and have profound impact.

A lot of people don't think the same about that. How is there no such thing as casual sex for pleasure?
 
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Why? Sex is something to be enjoyed by two consenting adults. It's nobody's business but you and your boyfriend.



Why would natural human behavior be sinful? I don't understand why so many Christians are concerned about what two people do while naked. As long as you're being safe and the sex is consensual, I don't see anything 'sinful' about it. It's natural.


I always thought it had more to do with familial structure than anything. And that it's not a productive lifestyle I'm saying for children... But I don't get how if it's not a lifestyle it's still wrong?

And yeah personally as a Christian I'm not concerned about anyone's sexuality. I was just wondering from a religious standpoint how it's wrong.
 
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Well personally it's not something I'd do if I were dating or single. For me it was more experimental. Mainly like I said I was new to my own sexuality so I had to figure it out and I think many people expirement when they're younger I don't really think that's a sin.

You are right, many people experiment when they begin to be sexually active, and that's ok. How else can you discover what you really like? I wouldn't worry too much about it :).
 
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I've written about homosexuality on my blog, if anyone wants to read it.

If you look in the Scriptures that talk about homosexuality (Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, Romans 1:26-28, 1 Timothy 1:10), all of them talk about homosexual behavior. There is a distinction between inclination and behavior. One cannot be blamed for one's inclinations, their upbringings, or their temptations, but one can be blamed for what one does. We cannot be blamed for who we are, but we can be blamed for our behavior.

Therefore, according to the Bible, being a homosexual is not the problem. It is engaging in homosexual behavior that is the issue here.
 
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I've written about homosexuality on my blog, if anyone wants to read it.

If you look in the Scriptures that talk about homosexuality (Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, Romans 1:26-28, 1 Timothy 1:10), all of them talk about homosexual behavior. There is a distinction between inclination and behavior. One cannot be blamed for one's inclinations, their upbringings, or their temptations, but one can be blamed for what one does. We cannot be blamed for who we are, but we can be blamed for our behavior.

Therefore, according to the Bible, being a homosexual is not the problem. It is engaging in homosexual behavior that is the issue here.
I know it does but my question is why?
 
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I was just wondering from a religious standpoint how it's wrong.

It's not wrong. Sex is a natural human behavior. I see nothing wrong from experimenting and figuring out what you enjoy and what makes you happy. From my experience from a Christian background and friends who are or once were fundamentalist Christians, the message seems to be "your sexual urges are evil and wrong unless you're married and saved by Jesus" It's basically a form of control. Telling you that you have a fake illness and then sell you a fake cure.
 
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Therefore, according to the Bible, being a homosexual is not the problem. It is engaging in homosexual behavior that is the issue here.

But not not allowing to engage in behavior that is in your nature, is still not loving homosexuals.
 
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Well personally it's not something I'd do if I were dating or single. For me it was more experimental. Mainly like I said I was new to my own sexuality so I had to figure it out and I think many people expirement when they're younger I don't really think that's a sin.

Still, I don't understand. Is shoplifting not a sin if you're just experimenting, but don't intend to become a professional thief?

Is it not a sin if you're young?

Why is your lesbian activity not a sin, while those people's lesbian activity is a sin?

It seems like a very convenient definition that you must be using, whatever it is.
 
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I know it does but my question is why?

The answer to that can be found in Genesis 2:24-25. Keep in mind, this was prior to the fall of man, before "sin entered the world through Adam".

In this text, God is defining for us what is appropriate sexual behavior. It is between a man and his wife.

This text is both quoted by Jesus in Jesus in Matthew 19 when talking about divorce, and by Paul in Ephesians 5, when talking about the martial union between the Church and Christ.
 
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But not not allowing to engage in behavior that is in your nature, is still not loving homosexuals.

You're missing the point. I was referring to sinful behavior, in accordance with the Bible, God's Word. But since you're an atheist, does not surprise me that you would reject my conclusion, since it's based on the Bible.
 
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Still, I don't understand. Is shoplifting not a sin if you're just experimenting, but don't intend to become a professional thief?

Is it not a sin if you're young?

Why is your lesbian activity not a sin, while those people's lesbian activity is a sin?

It seems like a very convenient definition that you must be using, whatever it is.

but the thing is if it were due to structure that wouldn't include people who did it without desire to be serious
 
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