Why is homosexuality wrong if it's not long term?

[The Cadet]

Why is homosexuality a sin? Because it goes against God's original design for sexual behavior, that is, between a man and a woman, in marriage.

So why was it designed that way? It seems to me to be a gross contradiction: on one hand, we were made to want sex a lot (and many of us want it with a partner of the same gender and sex), and yet it goes against God's design?

Why does God care so much? Because He created us, to be in a loving, personal relationship with Him. When we sin and break His Laws, it hurts that relationship.

How could it? This is a being that is supposedly perfect and wants to have a relationship with us. How could that relationship possibly be harmed? And couldn't he just change his laws? You speak before of God's design, but it doesn't change the fact that this facet of his design is pointless and could just as easily not exist. And if it didn't, then everyone would be better off for it. Or heck, he could just as easily change his design and make it so that nobody was gay. After all, if it was against his original design for sexual behavior, why allow it to exist in the first place? Why provide people with such extensive temptation?

This does not seem like the design of a perfect, benevolent god. It seems like haphazard, thrown-together design, if that at all.

Does that help?

It mostly just raises more questions, honestly.

 

[Reasoning]

No matter what they think, relationships effect the soul of a person.
People seeking and discarding relationships get damaged just as
babies who do not form strong relationships early, are damaged
for all their lives and unable to cope well in society.

Those claims only have meaning if you support them with evidence. In what why do they get damaged? What do you mean with soul? You might have experienced it, or think like that. But is certainly not the case for 'all people' (and I can speak out of experience ;D)

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Lucky for you, the bible seems to only be concerned with gay sex between men. I'm not aware of any part where lesbians are directly called out and decried.

 

[keith99]

Lucky for you, the bible seems to only be concerned with gay sex between men. I'm not aware of any part where lesbians are directly called out and decried.

There is one of Paul's letters that speaks of lesbianism as a result of immorality (result, not cause).

I'm not getting the if not long term part of this. Who would say that for anything really wrong? Would we say it is OK to be a pickpocket because one planned to quite once they graduated college? The only reason I can think of to make a difference for homosexuality is related to having children, as if not bringing more children into an overpopulated world is somehow sinful.

 

[nc17]

An odd question I'd think for a Christian to pose. Why is something the faith calls wrong wrong if it doesn't last long?
Why not expand the question in a different context so as to see the conflict in this first question in the OP.
Why is stealing wrong if it's not long term?
Why is murdering people wrong if it's not long term?

No, same sex sex isn't the same as robbing people or murdering people. However, it is a matter of moral composure that the scriptures of the Christians Bible are concerned . And the teachings of Christ are also a matter of moral composure and being created in his own image through faith having left the worldly material carnal nature behind. Part of what the ritual of baptism includes is to wash that old worldly self away and be reborn, as we are born from the water that is in our mothers womb nurturing us for those 9 months, into a new world.
How then is one expected to be reborn as a new creation in the image of Christ's message, when he was the message, the word, and ask how it is wrong to live as their old worldly selves while wearing his name as their faith?

well the bible directly says stealing is wrong. Lesbianism is assume to be wrong simply due to partnership. Which is why I'm like the sex itself isn't technically wrong especially since sex is defined as vaginal or anal sex...

 

[nc17]

Pardon me while I make the observation, being you've identified yourself as a female who's had lesbian encounter, that there is nothing more serious than oral copulation on another female by choice.
Don't fool yourself for one minute. If what you're claiming in the OP is true, you were serious and you were aroused when you copulated with another female and achieved climax.And you were serious.

It's not like a practical joke that you pull on someone and then say, "HAAA! Just kiddin!" You don't put your face between another girls legs when you're not serious about being there.


Or, you've never done any such thing and you're here playing games with the Christians just to get a rise out of them by posting on a subject such as this.

Like I said I wouldn't do it nowadays. I was new to my own sexuality. She was older and more experienced so we experimented it's not something I'd want to repeat and nothing was serious. I was dating another guy and so was she... That's just a fact. To me the act of lesbian sex isn't a sin. More the familial structure seems to be frowned upon than the sex which isn't really acknowledge. In a sense I understand why because lesbian sex really isn't sex imo. Which is why I am more guilty of hetero sex than I ever felt with that. That's just my philosophy.

 

[nc17]

So you weren't serious about sinning, it was just idly sinning? Almost by accident!

Actually no it wasn't my intention it ended up happening simply because I was curious and she had a crush on me. My interest has always been in men. To me it wasn't a sin like I said it was more just experimenting with sexx which happened to be another woman. And even then it wasn't like sex as the definition religiously is more to do with heterosexual and gay sex. Not lesbian.

 

[nc17]

Not taking sex seriously impedes our ability to settle successfully with anyone.

no one settles down with anyone at 17..

 

[Mister_Al]

Romans 1:26-27 Amplified Bible (AMP)
26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading and vile passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural [a function contrary to nature], 27 and in the same way also the men turned away from the natural function of the woman and were consumed with their desire toward one another, men with men committing shameful acts and in return receiving in their own bodies the inevitable and appropriate penalty for their wrongdoing.

You should also look up the story of Sodom and Gomorrah and read it.

Alan

 

[nc17]

Not taking sex seriously impedes our ability to settle successfully with anyone.

Romans 1:26-27 Amplified Bible (AMP)
26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading and vile passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural [a function contrary to nature], 27 and in the same way also the men turned away from the natural function of the woman and were consumed with their desire toward one another, men with men committing shameful acts and in return receiving in their own bodies the inevitable and appropriate penalty for their wrongdoing.

You should also look up the story of Sodom and Gomorrah and read it.

Alan

but that's about men on men sex... Not lesbian sex.

 

[nc17]

The problem is the type of relationship in action. If one follows their LUST as a guideline
every type of sex interaction goes bad. This is the point of those passages. Some people
are born with gender identification from both sexes. How would we even judge if two of
the same gender are together? So....homosexuality is not the issue.

How the relationship is actioned is the issue. I'm called to love Jesus. He's a guy, so am I.
God seems OK with that. HOW I treat that relationship is the issue.

I'm confused now I never mentioned anything about a relationship. I was speaking of outside of a relationship...

 

[nc17]

You're not going to get much more here than "it's wrong because the Bible says so, the Bible says so because it's wrong *repeat as necessary *" and variations on that.

Yeah it doesn't like there's any actual answer which I guess is why my outlook on this is so laxed

 

[quatona]

Yeah it doesn't like there's any actual answer which I guess is why my outlook on this is so laxed

What do you think would be a satisfactory answer to "Why is X wrong?". What kind of answer were you looking for?

 

[nc17]

There is one of Paul's letters that speaks of lesbianism as a result of immorality (result, not cause).

I'm not getting the if not long term part of this. Who would say that for anything really wrong? Would we say it is OK to be a pickpocket because one planned to quite once they graduated college? The only reason I can think of to make a difference for homosexuality is related to having children, as if not bringing more children into an overpopulated world is somehow sinful.

no but stealing is said that it is wrong. There's only an assumption lesbianism is wrong and the only reason it's seemingly frowned upon is if it is long term not as casual sex as lesbian sex is never mentioned as exactly wrong which is my whole point. It is assumed manand woman are meant for each other but that doesn't have to do with casual sex as lesbian does not even qualify as sex...

 

[nc17]

What do you think would be a satisfactory answer to "Why is X wrong?". What kind of answer were you looking for?

give a real explanation from the bible as to why a casual lesbian encounter is actually wrong... You guys start referring to gay sex and then talk about relationship sex. It's not what I'm talking about. I haven't found anything in the bible that says it's wrong.

 

[Leevo]

I'm heterosexual, but have had encounters with another woman. I have never been in a relationship with her and to me being friends with benefits with her is harmless as I have no interest in being in a long term relationship and I am happy with my bf. Neither of us actually date women. And I haven't been with another woman. Mainly it was for experimental reasons. I started having sex with her when I was 17 and a virgin and new sexuality in general but I guess curious. I don't have any regrets either though. To me it was more of an experiment. I am a Christian and from a religious family but I can't see how it's wrong if there's no relationship? I am religious and I feel more guilt about being sexually active with my bf than having lesbian sex. I'd think that sex with a man outside of marriage would be more of a sin?

Being sexually active outside of marriage is a sin, homosexual or heterosexual. Though all sexual acts of homosexuality are considered sin in scripture and the scriptural definition of marriage is one man and one woman, so homosexual marriages are not valid marriages in a religious context.

 

[quatona]

give a real explanation from the bible as to why a casual lesbian encounter is actually wrong...

Actually, if I recall correctly, you rarely find an explanation why something is wrong in the bible. Typically, you´ll find but a statement that something is wrong.

You guys start referring to gay sex and then talk about relationship sex.

Please don´t address me as "you guys", and please don´t describe me as doing something I don´t do. Thank you.

 

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