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It should be Murder?

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joshua 1 9

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If you do not believe it should be illegal and are not actively trying to stop women from getting abortions, then you're pro-choice and I have no issue with your position.
I am pro life. I am saying God is the one that gives them a choice. I would hope they make the right choice but that is their choice to make.

I think we should do more to avoid the problem. They should quit exposing our youth to the filth they have on the internet.
 
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Back when I was protesting abortions we got five churches churches together to go out to the abortion clinic and we surrounded the whole block. We prayed and we asked God to shut down that clinic and to stop people from killing their children. As far as I know God did not shut down the Clinic. That was when I started to see that He gives people the choice of life or death. "This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live." He gives people that choice and He does not choose for them. They must decide if they want to choose life or death.


Ever occur to you that maybe your understanding of Gods views on abortion might be mistaken?
 
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Feeding off the mother's blood and bones, putting her life at risk.

Indeed. A woman's body is designed to carry a baby. Heard it has been done billions of times successfully for thousands and thousands of years or more.
 
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Ever occur to you that maybe your understanding of Gods views on abortion might be mistaken?
Did it ever occur to you that your understanding could be mistaken?
 
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You need to wash your keyboard out with soap...

Yeah. Last 6 months before retirement I presided over quite a many company grade officer separation boards. When a spouse claims adultery you have to view all the evidence with the lawyers.
 
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I am pro life. I am saying God is the one that gives them a choice. I would hope they make the right choice but that is their choice to make.
You may not be comfortable with the label pro-choice, and I won't seek to push it on you. The bottom line is that you and I are in agreement about abortion in every way that I care about, so I see no reason to argue with you.
 
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Indeed. A woman's body is designed to carry a baby. Heard it has been done billions of times successfully for thousands and thousands of years or more.
And that's why it's the sixth leading cause of death for women between 20 and 34 in the US, because they were made for it, yeah. :oldthumbsup:

Interestingly, birth defects are #2 leading cause of death for girls aged 1-4, #3 5-9 & #4 10-14.
 
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And that's why it's the sixth leading cause of death for women between 20 and 34 in the US, because they were made for it, yeah. :oldthumbsup:

Interestingly, birth defects are #2 leading cause of death for girls aged 1-4, #3 5-9 & #4 10-14.
Yes, 6th leading cause at a shocking 2.8-3.1% of deaths.

Let's put this in perspective, shall we? This sixth "leading cause of death" comes out to 17.8 deaths per 100,000 live births in the U.S., or 0.017% of live births ending with the mother dying. That's hardly what one would call an astronomical failure rate, particularly after thousands of years of genetic entropy. And the U.S. is actually extremely high compared to other "civilized" cultures.

Typically, if something works right 99.9822% of the time, it's doing what it's designed to do.
 
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Yes, 6th leading cause at a shocking 2.8-3.1% of deaths.

Let's put this in perspective, shall we? This sixth "leading cause of death" comes out to 17.8 deaths per 100,000 live births in the U.S., or 0.017% of live births ending with the mother dying. That's hardly what one would call an astronomical failure rate, particularly after thousands of years of genetic entropy. And the U.S. is actually extremely high compared to other "civilized" cultures.

Typically, if something works right 99.9822% of the time, it's doing what it's designed to do.

Now tell us the death rate prior to modern medicine.
 
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I do not claim to know the opinion of an infinite being. That would imply I am both a theist and a prophet.
A good place to start would be to read the Bible. If you do not know, then you do not want to know.
 
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How does this compare with the nearly 60 millions of murders of unborn children?
They will be in Heaven, they just never had a chance to live life here on this earth. If people do not like Children then Heaven may not be the right place for them. Heaven is a place for people that like children.
 
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When a spouse claims adultery you have to view all the evidence with the lawyers.

Yea spouses can claim just about anything and it will be investigated no matter if it is obvious BS or not.

We had one SSgt accused of sexually molesting his own daughter (age 4) by his spouse. They were in the process of getting a divorce and when it was looking like she wasn't going to get custody of the kids up popped the false accusations...
 
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You're showing yourself to be quite adept at not answering the question. Congratulations.

At what point in the development of the unborn child would you consider it to be a moral duty to protect the life of a human being?
 
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They will be in Heaven, they just never had a chance to live life here on this earth. If people do not like Children then Heaven may not be the right place for them. Heaven is a place for people that like children.[/QUO?]

Would you have any objection to sending most children to heaven? How about sending to heaven all those we don't like?
 
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