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Cearbhall

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The wages of sin is death. You can sin all you want with your body, but the end result is going to be death and destruction. You can not escape from the consequences of sin. It is your choice if that is what you want.
Your religious beliefs are quite interesting, but I do not share them.
Today a mother can sell a daughter into prostitution. She can sell her daughters virginity. We would hope that a mother would not do that to her daughter but she has that choice.
Where in the heck do you live? :confused:
 
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Actually, I can do quite a lot of other things with my body besides acting as a baby-making machine.
You can, you can break all ten of the commandments if you want. The point is that God is watching and God is testing you. He wants to know what decision you are going to make and you will have to deal with the results of that decision. If you want to flunk the test then that is your choice to make.
 
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The wages of sin is death. You can sin all you want with your body, but the end result is going to be death and destruction. You can not escape from the consequences of sin. It is your choice if that is what you want. We are just trying to help you see what the options are so you can make your choice in full knowledge of the truth and not out of deception.
What knowledge do you believe I lack? Disagreement is not ignorance.
We prosecute lesser crimes like rape, sexual abuse of children and car thefts. I my car is stolen, I can buy another. A life stolen can never be replaced. The criminal act is is final. Can't we use common sense?
Forcing a woman to carry to term conflicts with our value of bodily autonomy on which many of the above laws are based. Can you name another case in which you would support forcing someone to sustain the life of another with his or her body? If your views are consistent, then they'll at least seem logical to me, even if I don't agree.
 
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By world standards, you folk commit a wildly disproportionate number of your citizens to prison. And you want even more to face that fate?

Where do you get these inflated figures from. I suggest you watch the following confessions of an ex-abortion doctor:
 
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Where do you get these inflated figures from. I suggest you watch the following confessions of an ex-abortion doctor:
Did you quote the right post? He didn't even give a figure, and what does that video have to do with our incarceration rate?
 
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Your religious beliefs are quite interesting, but I do not share them.
You may be in denial, but the consequences are still the same. This is known as sowing and reaping. Some religions call is Karma, even on the streets they say there is a sense of justice and people getting what is coming to them.

Where in the heck do you live? :confused:
I live on Ohio. Why do you think stuff like that does not go on here?
 
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Now some subjectively say "the majority rules" do so only when their subjective view is in the majority; but rail when they are a minority view saying it isn't fair.

Oh no nobody would do that... {sarc}
 
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You may be in denial, but the consequences are still the same.
Again, yes, you are a Christian. I get it. Surely you wouldn't think it logical if someone came in here and started telling you what you must do because of what Sharia law says. I wouldn't expect you to submit to that. Do you have a relevant argument or no?
 
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Not a valid argument.

The life in the mother's womb is a distinct human being.
Feeding off the mother's blood and bones, putting her life at risk.
 
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So you don't believe abortion should be illegal?
Back when I was protesting abortions we got five churches churches together to go out to the abortion clinic and we surrounded the whole block. We prayed and we asked God to shut down that clinic and to stop people from killing their children. As far as I know God did not shut down the Clinic. That was when I started to see that He gives people the choice of life or death. "This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live." He gives people that choice and He does not choose for them. They must decide if they want to choose life or death.
 
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Overturning Roe involves more than presenting scientific evidence. It requires we get non ideologues sitting in those 9 chairs.

Along with a lot of other insane laws...
 
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Feeding off the mother's blood and bones, putting her life at risk.
What kind of parent did you have? A parent is to nourish, cherish and care for their child. This is what makes live. If your parents had not give you the gift of life you would not be here having this conversation. Even the animals know how to take care of their babies. Of course they do not have a choice. God has given choice to humans as a test. He wants to see what they will do if they are given a choice.
 
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Along with a lot of other insane laws...
The laws I am talking about are the laws of nature and they have nothing to do with man's law. The very same laws that cause atoms to join together and make elements and molecules and life. Those very same laws regulate every aspect of the life they created. If you violate the laws of nature then your going to have problems. As they use to say: Don't mess with Mother Nature.
 
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Back when I was protesting abortions we got five churches churches together to go out to the abortion clinic and we surrounded the whole block.
I'm glad you don't do that anymore.
That was when I started to see that He gives people the choice of life or death.
If you do not believe it should be illegal and are not actively trying to stop women from getting abortions, then you're pro-choice and I have no issue with your position.
 
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Again, yes, you are a Christian. I get it. Surely you wouldn't think it logical if someone came in here and started telling you what you must do because of what Sharia law says. I wouldn't expect you to submit to that. Do you have a relevant argument or no?
I understand Sharia law. I understand the law of sin and death. What we need to learn is the law of God's love, grace and mercy. This is the age of God's Grace. Soon the church age will come to an end and people will be under man's law. The Muslims want the whole world subject to Sharia law. If you refuse the grace of God than that is the law you will be under. That is your choice.
 
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