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Evolution can never be science.

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If you study the Atom you will find a neutron, proton and electron. This represents positive, negative and neutral. In some cases male, female and neutral. That is why you have Adam, Eve and God. Eveolution represents the way females think as opposed to the way males think. So Creationism is the positive (male), evolution is the negative (female) and Science is neutral. That is why evolution can never be science and you can never have science without creationism and evolution to balance out the positive and the negative. You have to have positive, negative and neutral. Just like in religion you need Father, Son and Holy Spirit. They have to be in the right balance to get it all to work. So Adam represents Creationism, Eve represents evolution. Male and female, positive and negative and Science then is always neutral. Not positive or negative. True science is not male or female. Unstable atoms will lose neutrons and protons as they attempt to become stable.

In 1962, Crick was awarded a Nobel Prize for discovering the structure of DNA, along with fellow scientists James Watson and Maurice Wilkins. The discovery of DNA was a trinity of male, female and neutral. Watson made racist and sexist remarks throughout his career and sold his Prize medal in the end. So we know who the male was :) Crick was neutral and represented science. While male and female were at odds with each other.
 
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And the prize for nonsensical thread goes to....:doh:
I will accept that prize. 2Pet3:16 "Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you, as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction."
 
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I will accept that prize. 2Pet3:16 "Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you, as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction."

Every time somebody on here pulls some nonsense out of his/her own head, he/she thinks that he/she can justify it by quoting some scriptural verses out of context.
 
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Every time somebody on here pulls some nonsense out of his/her own head, he/she thinks that he/she can justify it by quoting some scriptural verses out of context.
I am not trying to justify anything. You either understand it or you don't. I don't care one way or the other. I understand it and it means something to me. I do not know how old you are, but they say you have to be at least 40 to understand Kabbalah. This is for those who are ready to enter into a deeper understanding of the things of life. For those who are not ready that is fine, no problem, every one has to advance and develop at their own rate in their own time. That is why some people live to be 100. It takes them that long to receive all of the understanding that we can obtain in this life.
 
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I will accept that prize. 2Pet3:16 "Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you, as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction."

Paul didn't mention your three parts theory nor any of the other 40 writers.
He didn't even put "The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit" together in one group.
 
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I am not trying to justify anything. You either understand it or you don't. I don't care one way or the other. I understand it and it means something to me. I do not know how old you are, but they say you have to be at least 40 to understand Kabbalah. This is for those who are ready to enter into a deeper understanding of the things of life. For those who are not ready that is fine, no problem, every one has to advance and develop at their own rate in their own time. That is why some people live to be 100. It takes them that long to receive all of the understanding that we can obtain in this life.

My mother-in-law will be 100 this year and her reward is dementia.
 
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So with this logic, creation and evolution can stably form hydrogen beliefs without science, and becomes unstable if you have too much science.

Who was that other poster who did all the stuff trying to shoehorn atomic structure into some sort of theological analogy?
 
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I am not trying to justify anything. You either understand it or you don't. I don't care one way or the other. I understand it and it means something to me. I do not know how old you are, but they say you have to be at least 40 to understand Kabbalah. This is for those who are ready to enter into a deeper understanding of the things of life. For those who are not ready that is fine, no problem, every one has to advance and develop at their own rate in their own time. That is why some people live to be 100. It takes them that long to receive all of the understanding that we can obtain in this life.

I am into my seventh decade, and I am not yet senile enough not to be able to recognise mumbo-jumbo when I see it.
 
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I am into my seventh decade, and I am not yet senile enough not to be able to recognise mumbo-jumbo when I see it.

It is obviously an orange because a vest has no sleeves.
 
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If you study the magnet you will find a north pole and a south pole.


and if you cut a magnet in half ...you have 2 North Poles and 2 South poles
into 4 ~4 North poles and 4 South poles

excellent science :oldthumbsup:
 
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and if you cut a magnet in half ...you have 2 North Poles and 2 South poles
into 4 ~4 North poles and 4 South poles

excellent science :oldthumbsup:


QUESTION: How can you know which pole is North and which pole is South ???


LOL
 
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I am into my seventh decade, and I am not yet senile enough not to be able to recognise mumbo-jumbo when I see it.
70 years old and you still have not learned that everything in life has a reason and a purpose?
 
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Paul didn't mention your three parts theory nor any of the other 40 writers. He didn't even put "The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit" together in one group.
Gerald Schroeder leans heavily on the teaching of Ramban: Nachmanides from the 1200's. Modern science was not around in Paul's day. Even if the religious teaching goes back to Moses. Science is just now catching up or catching on. For example they say that the "Big Bang" started out as a teaching in Kabbalah and went from there to Science.
 
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70 years old and you still have not learned that everything in life has a reason and a purpose?

When I was four I was in my first decade.

Insofar as things have a purpose, that purpose is assigned to them by God, and it has nothing to do with the mumbo jumbo you posted.
 
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