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Philosophical arguments against the existence of God
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Ok thanks for clearing it up.
And I agree with you. I acknowledge the fact that there are scholars who have no bias for Christianity to confirm in affirming Tacitus is a reliable extra biblical source for the historicity of Jesus.
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I will ask again. How do I know what?Still driving that Dodge?
I'm asking you for clarification and you respond by talking about driving a dodge.
How do I know what?
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Ana the Ist
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Exactly...just as there are scholars who have bias for christianity and it taints their view of Tacitus.
Are you done now? Will you address my argument? Or is this entire thread a sham?
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Indeed. I considered making the effort to get him back on track, then recalled the circular nature of that track, and thought better of it. It's not like we have not already gone down this personal-experiences-as-evidence-for-personal-experiences rabbit hole before.
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Breckmin
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John Duns Scotus and others have shown that omnipotence refers to God changing things outside of Himself and not changing His Own Character, or any of His immutable attributes.
How have you shown that God can not be moral and omnipotent? Is this related to understanding why there is evil? Or why there is suffering? Or is this just pivoting God's characteristics or God's Own attributes against each other which is easily shown to be a misapplication of what is meant by omnipotence (all-logically-powerful)?
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Breckmin
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There is a certain "hiddenness" regarding the Infinite Creator....because the Creator is invisible and not merely material. God is experienced in people's lives in very personal ways.
but we can also see the "product" of His creation.
Features in biological systems which come from Intelligence are "seen" but the Intelligence which engineered these features and infused the information into these systems is NOT seen.
This may not be immediately "theistic" in its conclusion...but the Intelligence Itself is not seen but the results of Intelligent engineering, programming, coding, design ARE seen.
but we can also see the "product" of His creation.
Features in biological systems which come from Intelligence are "seen" but the Intelligence which engineered these features and infused the information into these systems is NOT seen.
This may not be immediately "theistic" in its conclusion...but the Intelligence Itself is not seen but the results of Intelligent engineering, programming, coding, design ARE seen.
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Archaeopteryx
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I would really like to believe that, but you can understand how, given your track record, I would be somewhat skeptical. Even so, I remain hopeful that you aren't incorrigible.
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Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee. Isaiah 26:3
If I do what God says and receive what God has promised i.e. the fruit of the Spirit, then I have confidence before God and man.
God is love. Whatever helps me to love my fellow man, whatever conviction, whatever thought, whatever unction, I can be sure it is of God.
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You know your wife exists because you have at times been in her immediate and personal presence and communicated with her either audibly or inaudibly.
Notice, I was asked how I "know" something exists, not how I "show" something exists.
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Archaeopteryx
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If Davian insisted that you believe he was married, but his wife was only "present" in this way, what would you say?
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