BLM protester disrupts Trump rally, gets roughed up and thrown out

[katherine2001]

Yet the fact remains that there are far fewer abortions when the Democrats are in power because people have more choices. Abortions peaked during the Reagan Administration. It went down a bit under Clinton, stalled out under the Bush Administration. There have been 13% fewer abortions under the Obama Administration. What too few Republicans understand is that no one wants to have an abortion. Given better options, they will take them.

I agree with you about that. If you are poor and not going to get any help to raise the child you are pregnant with, that might make a woman feel that she has no choice but to abort it. It is the Democrats who believe that the children are sacred enough to help support the children once they are born so that they have what the need to grow up healthy, productive people. The GOP only seems to consider their lives sacred before they are born, once they are born and will cost us money, their lives aren't so sacred. If their lives are truly sacred, then we would be more than willing to pitch in to help.

 

[smaneck]

I don't think Trump represent a dramatic shift from the establishment in the same way Bernie does.

Certainly not in the same way. But the last thing the Republican Establishment wants is for a Trump or a Carson to win the nomination. Something about wanting to win the general election.

I don't believe for a minute that he's trying to get the money out of politics/campaign reform which has been a major plank in Bernie's campaign.

You are forgetting that there was bi-partisan support for campaign finance reform. It got nixed by the Supreme Court.

Bernie speaks the truth about some of our political problems. The Republican "non-establishment" candidates tow the line when it comes to talking about those problems. They support the military-industrial complex, they support Wall Street, etc. They support big money interests, whereas Bernie opposes them.

I wonder what would happen if we took the whole issue of the military-industrial complex to the Supreme Court? The reason I ask is that our Founding Father's never envisioned us having a standing army. A standing navy, yes, but not a standing army. Our state militias were supposed to serve that purpose, which is why we have the Second Amendment. Article 8 of the Constitution only allows for a military to be funded for two years. Now one could argue that there is nothing in the Constitution which prohibits the funding from being renewed each year, but military contracts with industry are multi-year. So their Constitutionality is questionable.

 

[smaneck]

BLM was justified at the Sanders rally?

And no, Sanders didn't listen. Sanders and his aide shut down the rally.

Only when they refused to leave even after they had their say.
Besides Sanders had already talked for an hour.

 

[Hetta]

The blasphemy is nauseating.
To equate Jesus with having a place in this is obscene. So too is to repeatedly argue that disrespectful hecklers should not only be tolerated as they scream slurs and insults at any candidate, when you're clearly a Liberal, but that they should supplant that candidate and be allowed to access the microphone so their rhetoric can be heard at a greater volume because that is what Christ would do, is ignorant as all get out. And completely devoid of knowledge of Christ at all.

I understand Liberals can be rabidly opposed to Republicans but when one such agenda brings Christ into it that's way over the top.

And by the way, reading the OT would benefit you GREATLY! When most all Christians recognize the scriptures that tell us Jesus was God incarnate, 2 Kings 2:23–24 proves you are speaking falsely as to what you presume Jesus would do in this case. In fact, to presume to speak for Jesus in defending the realm of Caesar speaks for itself. And I know you have me set to ignore but at least others will read the rebuke.

May God forgive you your offenses to his name and grace.

Prior to beating them he fashioned a whip for the purpose and with his own hands.

So when a person brings God into it but disagrees with you, it is "nauseating" and you're "praying" that God forgive them (soooo much drama) but when someone brings God into it, but agrees with you, they get a thumbs up? Interesting. Except, not really.

 

[Smidlee]

Yet the fact remains that there are far fewer abortions when the Democrats are in power because people have more choices. Abortions peaked during the Reagan Administration. It went down a bit under Clinton, stalled out under the Bush Administration. There have been 13% fewer abortions under the Obama Administration. What too few Republicans understand is that no one wants to have an abortion. Given better options, they will take them.

As more woman experience the aftermath of abortions they became a stronger voice against abortions. The fact there less abortion was in spite of Democrats and not because of them. It was the 90's when those pictures of aborted babies came out as some women that was pro-choice (I call pro-death) became pro-life.

 

[rambot]

As more woman experience the aftermath of abortions they became a stronger voice against abortions. The fact there less abortion was in spite of Democrats and not because of them. It was the 90's when those pictures of aborted babies came out as some women that was pro-choice (I call pro-death) became pro-life.

Less abortion is more than likely becoming more common as the different birth control methods become more common use.

 

[rambot]

You can choose to ignore that Jesus drove ALL out with the whip.
Jesus was God. It amazes me how many people refuse to recognize that.

You've confused "ignore" with "disagree".

 

[Tallguy88]

Hardly, as an invader. And I wouldn't call him an activist, either. As Commander in Chief he was putting down a revolt, period.

Why do you think the last four states seceded only after Lincoln called for an army to invade the South? It was because they were shocked he would do such a thing and it galvanized them. Virginia, Arkansas, North Carolina, and Tennessee were all very non committal toward secession before that point, yet they did an immediate about-face and joined the CSA after Lincoln announced his plans to raise 100,000 troops to invade the South.

 

[TerranceL]

Which is to turn the meaning of the story on its head.

Not at all it shows that Christ isn't nearly as spineless as Sanders is.

If he was he would has seen what was being done in the temple and stood there with his head down.

 

[TerranceL]

I already explained how it was described to be used. You are welcome to refer back to John 2 to help clarify your understanding but yes, there is NO mention of Jesus hitting people.

It also doesn't say he didn't hit people, it does however say he used a weapon perfect for it. There's no reason to think he didn't use it.

This is the same guy who destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, do you really think violence is beneath him? Well that is, unless you don't believe that Christ is God.

 

[TerranceL]

I haven't seen any racist extremism in the BLM. The BLM would not have interrupted a sermon like Matthew 25 in the first place. They interrupt racists like Trump who falsely spread misinformation like 81% of the whites being murdered by blacks.

Nothing racist from BLM?

They went into a Dartmouth library and began shouting at students.

http://www.dartreview.com/eyes-wide-open-at-the-protest/

Black-clad protesters gathered in front of Dartmouth Hall, forming a crowd roughly one hundred fifty strong. Ostensibly there to denounce the removal of shirts from a display in Collis, the Black Lives Matter collective began to sing songs and chant their eponymous catchphrase. Not content to merely demonstrate there for the night, the band descended from their high-water mark to march into Baker-Berry Library.

“F*** you, you filthy white f***s!” “F*** you and your comfort!” “F*** you, you racist s***!”

Throngs of protesters converged around fellow students who had not joined in their long march. They confronted students who bore “symbols of oppression”: “gangster hats” and Beats-brand headphones. The flood of demonstrators self-consciously overstepped every boundary, opening the doors of study spaces with students reviewing for exams. Those who tried to close their doors were harassed further. One student abandoned the study room and ran out of the library. The protesters followed her out of the library, shouting obscenities the whole way.

Students who refused to listen to or join their outbursts were shouted down. “Stand the f*** up!” “You filthy racist white piece of s***!” Men and women alike were pushed and shoved by the group. “If we can’t have it, shut it down!” they cried. Another woman was pinned to a wall by protesters who unleashed their insults, shouting “filthy white b****!” in her face.

LAWLS NOTHING RACIS THERE GUISE!

 

[TerranceL]

BLM felt Sanders wasn't giving enough attention to race matters. Sanders proved they were wrong by listening.

BLM ignored that amongst everybody running Sanders was their closest ally and chose to call his followers racist.

 

[TerranceL]

I am not sure Trump is an establishment candidate and he certainly gets a lot of coverage.

Trump is a jester nothing more.

 

[TLK Valentine]

As more woman experience the aftermath of abortions they became a stronger voice against abortions. The fact there less abortion was in spite of Democrats and not because of them. It was the 90's when those pictures of aborted babies came out as some women that was pro-choice (I call pro-death) became pro-life.

You can show a cause-and-effect relationship as opposed to just assuming one, I take it?

 

[Smidlee]

You can show a cause-and-effect relationship as opposed to just assuming one, I take it?

So you think that Democrats having the tax payer paying for abortions as well as legalizing partial birth abortion had anything to do with lowering the abortion rate?

I was around during the 80's and 90's so I remember the out cry against abortion getting louder with time.

 

[TLK Valentine]

So you think that Democrats having the tax payer paying for abortions as well as legalizing partial birth abortion had anything to do with lowering the abortion rate?

You think it backfired?

I was around during the 80's and 90's so I remember the out cry against abortion getting louder with time.

As was I -- the cries only seem louder because the bombs stopped going off.

 

[Smidlee]

It also doesn't say he didn't hit people, it does however say he used a weapon perfect for it. There's no reason to think he didn't use it.

to drive out the animals?

This is the same guy who destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, do you really think violence is beneath him? Well that is, unless you don't believe that Christ is God.

Only 10 righteous people would have saved those cities. Only 10. But when they decided to lay their hands on Lot to do him harm, If it wasn't for Lot would have been in slavery) then and only then was judgement pronounce on the cities.

You think it backfired?

As was I -- the cries only seem louder because the bombs stopped going off.

You mean death leads to more death as it's been throughout history. Who would have guess shedding innocent blood would cheapen the value of life.

 

[rambot]

It also doesn't say he didn't hit people, it does however say he used a weapon perfect for it. There's no reason to think he didn't use it.

This is the same guy who destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, do you really think violence is beneath him? Well that is, unless you don't believe that Christ is God.

Is there another instance where Jesus is violent when he has an opportunity?

 

[AionPhanes]

But don't you think the fact this story is found in all four gospels lends something to its credibility. As for John's Gospel placing it at a different time, I'm sure you realize that the this gospel is the least reliable when it comes to chronology. Besides, Jesus' being arrested soon after this incident makes a lot of sense.

If it happened shortly before his arrest then it was actually the author of the Gospel of John, the Gospel written the greatest length of time after the event, who got it correct. The Synoptics all have it happening earlier on.

Unless maybe he was surrounded by a large number of armed followers, something not mentioned in the text and contrary to his message of the kingdom being spiritual and not earthly, I don't see how he could flip over tables and drive people out of the Temple (of all places) and not be overpowered and arrested. The Romans were vigilant regarding revolution and the Temple was surely one of the hotspots they would keep guarded and under watchful eye.

 

[Yeshuas_My_Freedom]

You've confused "ignore" with "disagree".

No, I'm not confused. I just don't interpolate scriptures to my liking because I can't bear to think Jesus fashioned a whip with his own hands and took it to the money changers. And drove out all who were in the temple. The animals weren't an offense to God. The money changers were.