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why humans are not primates

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crjmurray

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airpo law states that you are not allowed to challenge, or even have an opinion on a subject, unless you have equal or better academic qualifications than the establishment "authority".

sounds a bit 1984 to me,

: )

Did airpo say that?
 
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What is "NATURAL SELECTION"?
NATURAL SELECTION is a phrase written on the shirt of one of the two great apes that terminated some other apes in an edifice built to house them for instructional purposes.

That's the only way I can see justification for the remark:
Humans are primates and they prove it every day by dying like primates,

... from an evolutionary point of view.
 
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NATURAL SELECTION is a phrase written on the shirt of one of the two great apes that terminated some other apes in an edifice built to house them for instructional purposes.

That's the only way I can see justification for the remark:
And it was a religion?
 
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And it was a religion?
On the macro level, NATURAL SELECTION is a religion ... yes.

Remember:

As weight occurs when gravity is resisted, religion occurs when the Bible is resisted.
 
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As weight occurs when gravity is resisted, religion occurs when the Bible is resisted.
Yes but for most human primates it's resisted by 3/4 of the population of the planet they choose other religions, for them Jesus is just another word as Allah or Krishna is for you.
 
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How do you know this is "God's" opinion?

Because only God knew that we live in a Multiverse more than 3k years ago. He made ONE Heaven/Universe on the 2nd Day/Age Gen 1:8 and other Heavens Gen 2:4 on the 3rd Day. That makes 3 Heavens within our Multiverse.

Only God could have correctly told us things which are just now being discovered by Science Today. A good example is the WMAP dating released in Feb/2015 which shows that it was some 550 Million-1 Billion years AFTER the Big Bang BEFORE the first Stars lit up.

God told us this thousands of years ago and NO man of the time could have possibly known that it was the THIRD Day Gen 2:4, when the Big Bang or Big Inflation of our Universe took place. What is awesome is that God also told us in Gen 1:16 that it was the FOURTH Day/Age BEFORE the First Stars lit up. It's empirical (testable) evidence of the Literal God. His name is Jesus Christ and He has revealed Himself in Genesis which means that we are living in the last days before He returns. Amen?
 
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Because only God knew that we live in a Multiverse more than 3k years ago. He made ONE Heaven/Universe on the 2nd Day/Age Gen 1:8 and other Heavens Gen 2:4 on the 3rd Day. That makes 3 Heavens within our Multiverse.

Only God could have correctly told us things which are just now being discovered by Science Today. A good example is the WMAP dating released in Feb/2015 which shows that it was some 550 Million-1 Billion years AFTER the Big Bang BEFORE the first Stars lit up.

God told us this thousands of years ago and NO man of the time could have possibly known that it was the THIRD Day Gen 2:4, when the Big Bang or Big Inflation of our Universe took place. What is awesome is that God also told us in Gen 1:16 that it was the FOURTH Day/Age BEFORE the First Stars lit up. It's empirical (testable) evidence of the Literal God. His name is Jesus Christ and He has revealed Himself in Genesis which means that we are living in the last days before He returns. Amen?
How do you know god told you this?
 
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still not adequately discussed

AS most of them aren't worth bothering with.

bones - thinner lighter than all other primates

ALL other primates? ALL of them? So if the human skeleton was shown to be proportionately heavier than say, a pygmy marmoset or a Phillipine Tarsier, then this claim would be invalidated.

skulls/brains - impossible to compare to other primates

Really? This link has a picture of a primate brain, can you tell which primate it is without looking at other sources?

There are entire scientific projects dedicated to comparing our brains with the brains of other primates.

head hair - constant growth unlike all other primates

Yes, humans may be unique in primates in having continually growing head hair. However, other primates have other unique hair features. So what? That's what makes us different species.

The quote Schwartz & Rosenblum

"Allometric analyses of hair densities in 23 anthropoid primate taxa reveal that increasingly massive primates have systematically fewer hairs per equal unit of body surface. Considering the absence of effective sweating in monkeys and apes, the negative allometry of relative hair density may represent an architectural adaptation to thermal constraints imposed by the decreasing ratios of surface area to volume in progressively massive primates."

nails - must be trimmed unlike other primates (this was answered for great apes but not all primates)

Now its all primates. All of a sudden our closest relatives, which are primates don't count. I see goal post shifting.

skin - not adapted to sunlight exposure like all other primates
(response left unanswered ^)

As it required none.

muscles - 5 to 10 times weaker for relative size compared to all other primates

The 5-10 stronger thing is incorrect from the get go. Most, but certainly not all other primates, have higher strength to weight ratios. In Chimps, its about double, in bonobos its about 30% more, in gorillas, its about 125%.

Humans evolved weaker muscles to help the metabolic demands of larger brain development.

adipose tissue - 10 times more body fat than all other primates
(someone kindly debunked the ToE narrative for this one ^)

Its not the 'ToE Narritive" that was debunked, but the ridiculous assertion that humans have 10 times more body fat than all other primates.

As I noted before, sedentary, westernised humans with calorie rich diets have body fat percentages 10 times that of some of the leanest primates. However, when you compare humans in hunter gather societies with average primate body fat percentages, humans are within the same range as other primates such as lemurs, gorillas, bonobos and orangutans.

locomotion - human locomotion different than all other primates
(response left unanswered ^)

Walking upright on two legs is the trait that defines the hominid lineage: Bipedalism separated the first hominids from the rest of the four-legged apes. It took a while for anthropologists to realize this. At the turn of the 20th century, scientists thought that big brains made hominids unique. This was a reasonable conclusion since the only known hominid fossils were of brainy species–Neanderthals and Homo erectus.

speech 1 -throats completely different than all other primates
speech 2 -brain construction different than all other primates

Supporting evidence needed for claims

penis bone - missing unlike all other primates
(response inadequate ^ and unanswered )

Baculum avatisms arent enough? What more would you want?

genetic disorders- 4000 not in primates

Not sure this one makes any sense.

chromosomes - 46 compared to the primate 48
(response concluded tobacco, potatoes and great apes share the same chromosome count unlike humans and the antelope)

If you understood evolution, you'd understand why bringing this up just makes you look foolish. Chromosome 2 fusion is pretty well established by comparative genetics.
 
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How do you know god told you this?

Because He wrote it in Genesis, which allows us to get an insight into God's intelligence, which is like ours. Gen 3:22 All writers reveal themselves in their writing and so does God. He tells us things which have NOT yet been discovered in Genesis and the closer we come to the end, the discoveries of Science will continue to CONFIRM what God told us thousands of years ago. Amen?
 
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Because He wrote it in Genesis, which allows us to get an insight into God's intelligence, which is like ours. Gen 3:22 All writers reveal themselves in their writing and so does God. He tells us things which have NOT yet been discovered in Genesis and the closer we come to the end, the discoveries of Science will continue to CONFIRM what God told us thousands of years ago. Amen?
So, god wrote the bible, because the bible says it was written by god? That's the basis of your argument?
 
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