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Have you heard of this:

Revelation 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

And for the record, how did those angiosperms survive without the sun in Genesis 1?
That's not a problem for me, it is a problem for you.
 
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..she says, posting from a computer she personally (likely) can't break down to the transistor and explain the whole way up.
I remember life before plastic and before transistors. We now call that the good ol days.
 
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I managed to make it to and from Afghanistan without having my atheism thrown to the wind,
And I salute you.
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... and plenty of atheists have fought and died right next to Christians.
And, IMO, they'll get credit for it too.
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I suggest you find yourself some perspective.
You want persepctive?

You should have been on Guam when the SS Mayaguez was captured.

People I would have never thought would do so were praying.
 
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And I salute you.And, IMO, they'll get credit for it too.You want persepctive?

You should have been on Guam when the SS Mayaguez was captured.

People I would have never thought would do so were praying.
Being a couple miles away from the action isn't really the same perspective.

Perhaps you will reconsider the next time you want to call a service member a "fake" atheist by repeating that despicable soundbite.
 
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I remember life before plastic and before transistors. We now call that the good ol days.
Ah, yes.

The days of the old vacuum tubes and power steering.

The days when a person knew what "roll down the window" actually meant.
 
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Ah, yes.

The days of the old vacuum tubes and power steering.

The days when a person knew what "roll down the window" actually meant.

The days when you had roll vents in your window which controlled your 'air conditioning'.
 
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..she says, posting from a computer she personally (likely) can't break down to the transistor and explain the whole way up.

scientific theories about how the world was created is not technology science isnt technology :wave:
 
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Being a couple miles away from the action isn't really the same perspective.
Close enough.

You still get the credit for fighting for us in the Good Book.

1 Samuel 30:24b ... but as his part is that goeth down to the battle, so shall his part be that tarrieth by the stuff: they shall part alike.
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Perhaps you will reconsider the next time you want to call a service member a "fake" atheist by repeating that despicable soundbite.
I've been through this conversation here before, Fox.

If that well-known line causes you to blow a gasket, wait until you read what's on our coins!
 
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Close enough.

You still get the credit for fighting for us in the Good Book.

1 Samuel 30:24b ... but as his part is that goeth down to the battle, so shall his part be that tarrieth by the stuff: they shall part alike.I've been through this conversation here before, Fox.

If that well-known line causes you to blow a gasket, wait until you read what's on our coins!
You've clearly bypassed any opportunity to pick up any civility nor dispense dignity in those previous conversations.
 
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You've clearly bypassed any opportunity to pick up any civility nor dispense dignity in those previous conversations.
Good.

And your fake consternation is noted.
 
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Ah, yes.

The days of the old vacuum tubes and power steering.

The days when a person knew what "roll down the window" actually meant.
My wife and I just bought a new car. We gave it to our son, we drive the older one. Mostly because he appreciates all the new stuff and I really don't have any use for any of it. Why would I need to plug my phone into the car I drive?
 
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Science isn't a la carte. Electron theory is science, and electron theory is how your computer works.
Modern technology relies heavily on electromagnets to store information using magnetic recording devices. Who gave us electromagnets? Joseph Henry a born again Christian. Most of what science discovers were discovered by a Christian. Of course Eighty-three percent of Americans identify themselves as Christians, so when something is discovered then there is a good chance it was discovered by a Christian. World wide a third of the people are christian. That is why we are told that few find their way to eternal life and there are many that perish.

Question: Which of the following institutions is led by a born-again, Bible-believing Christian who prays for guidance and accepts the Biblical creation account as true?

  1. Smithsonian Institution
  2. American Association for the Advancement of Science
  3. Princeton University science department
  4. National Academy of Sciences
If it’s the 19th century, it is “all of the above.” These distinguished positions were held by one man: Joseph Henry. Remarkably, these honors are less important than the scientific contributions made by one of America’s foremost early scientists.

- See more at: http://crev.info/?scientists=joseph-henry#sthash.1yMxwAYS.dpuf
 
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Good.

And your fake consternation is noted.

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Modern technology relies heavily on electromagnets to store information using magnetic recording devices. Who gave us electromagnets? Joseph Henry a born again Christian. Most of what science discovers were discovered by a Christian. Of course Eighty-three percent of Americans identify themselves as Christians, so when something is discovered then there is a good chance it was discovered by a Christian. World wide a third of the people are christian. That is why we are told that few find their way to eternal life and there are many that perish.

Question: Which of the following institutions is led by a born-again, Bible-believing Christian who prays for guidance and accepts the Biblical creation account as true?

  1. Smithsonian Institution
  2. American Association for the Advancement of Science
  3. Princeton University science department
  4. National Academy of Sciences
If it’s the 19th century, it is “all of the above.” These distinguished positions were held by one man: Joseph Henry. Remarkably, these honors are less important than the scientific contributions made by one of America’s foremost early scientists.

- See more at: http://crev.info/?scientists=joseph-henry#sthash.1yMxwAYS.dpuf
Being a Christian doesn't mean you can't do science. You have misunderstood the objection. Those discoveries were made by doing science. He created a scientific model, tested it, and demonstrated it to others who tested it. That's what doing science is. He didn't "do" Christianity to come up with the electromagnet.

Please do share with us what you think it means to do science, and then tell us what part of science necessitates Christian faith.
 
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Please do share with us what you think it means to do science, and then tell us what part of science necessitates Christian faith.
We use science for life and health and healing. Not death and destruction. During the 1000 year reign of Christ we will have peace. They will beat their sword into a plowshare.

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Does your Hindu brother believe Jesus was resurrected?
I am not sure what Hindu believe. I am pretty sure they believe there is a life after this one. I think they are trying to reach nirvana or something like that.
 
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