Common ancestor between chimps and humans

[JonFromMinnesota]

As it happens, evolutionists do not have a proper explanation for the extreme succession of human prominence from ancestors. Mankind rose out of nowhere.

False. Mankind's origin is in Africa.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/07/070718-african-origin.html

 

[HitchSlap]

Can you show us that your evidence is better than God's Holy Word?

I can show you that "God's Holy Word" is whole cloth fabrication. Would that do?

 

[Aman777]

1. The only facts that you are stating is that agriculture started 11,000 years ago. How does this falsify evolution? Your argument is nonsensical. Homo sapiens have been around for 200,000 years and survived just fine by hunting and gathering.

False, since the population after some 6 Million years was only a million prehistoric people. SUDDENLY the Ark arrives and brings Humans (descendants of Adam) to this Earth of prehistoric people, who evolved from the common ancestor of Apes, which means they were NOT Humans (descendants of Adam). Were they? What is revealed is that today's scientists don't know the difference between prehistoric people who evolved from water and Humans whose destiny is to rule and reign with Christ forever.

Jon:>>
You're making an extraordinary claim that we inherited intelligence from Adam without first demonstrating that Adam even existed. Care to provide any evidence for this? Or will you just keep making claims?

Adam was made with an intelligence like God's. Gen 3:22 The sons of God (prehistoric people) evolved from the common ancestor of Apes. Humans were made the Hands of Jesus. Gen 2:7 The sons of God were created and began to come forth from Water at God's command on the 5th Day, which was 3.77 Billion years ago, in man's time.

Jon:>>
Stop doing mental gymnastics and provide some evidence for your claim. All your map does is show the start of agriculture 11,000 years ago.

It's the start of Human civilization on this Planet which came SUDDENLY with the arrival of the Ark and NOT through some long, drawn out, magical evolution since evolution doesn't do ANYthing SUDDENLY. It's been LESS than 1% of the time since prehistoric people diverged from Chimps and Humans (descendants of Adam) have taken mankind from Caves to the Moon and back safely. That's SUDDEN in geologic time which means it cannot be evolution.

What the believers in evolution tried was to re-write history but they forgot one event in the Bible which DESTROYS their false ideas. Unaware that Scripture clearly shows that Adam, the first Human, was NOT made on Planet Earth, these early evolutionists made up a fairy tale to explain their made up, incomplete, false Theory. They thought that Humans MUST have come from Great Apes because their skeletons looked alike.

God's Truth shows that Adam's world was totally destroyed in the Flood and that released the Ark into our Universe. That is How and 11k years ago is When prehistoric people began to inherit the superior intelligence of Adam, who was made with a mind like God's. Gen 3:22 The ToE is totally wrong. God Bless you

 

[HitchSlap]

False, since the population after some 6 Million years was only a million prehistoric people. SUDDENLY the Ark arrives and brings Humans (descendants of Adam) to this Earth of prehistoric people, who evolved from the common ancestor of Apes, which means they were NOT Humans (descendants of Adam). Were they? What is revealed is that today's scientists don't know the difference between prehistoric people who evolved from water and Humans whose destiny is to rule and reign with Christ forever.

Jon:>>
You're making an extraordinary claim that we inherited intelligence from Adam without first demonstrating that Adam even existed. Care to provide any evidence for this? Or will you just keep making claims?

Adam was made with an intelligence like God's. Gen 3:22 The sons of God (prehistoric people) evolved from the common ancestor of Apes. Humans were made the Hands of Jesus. Gen 2:7 The sons of God were created and began to come forth from Water at God's command on the 5th Day, which was 3.77 Billion years ago, in man's time.

Jon:>>
Stop doing mental gymnastics and provide some evidence for your claim. All your map does is show the start of agriculture 11,000 years ago.

It's the start of Human civilization on this Planet which came SUDDENLY with the arrival of the Ark and NOT through some long, drawn out, magical evolution since evolution doesn't do ANYthing SUDDENLY. It's been LESS than 1% of the time since prehistoric people diverged from Chimps and Humans (descendants of Adam) have taken mankind from Caves to the Moon and back safely. That's SUDDEN in geologic time which means it cannot be evolution.

What the believers in evolution tried was to re-write history but they forgot one event in the Bible which DESTROYS their false ideas. Unaware that Scripture clearly shows that Adam, the first Human, was NOT made on Planet Earth, these early evolutionists made up a fairy tale to explain their made up, incomplete, false Theory. They thought that Humans MUST have come from Great Apes because their skeletons looked alike.

God's Truth shows that Adam's world was totally destroyed in the Flood and that released the Ark into our Universe. That is How and 11k years ago is When prehistoric people began to inherit the superior intelligence of Adam, who was made with a mind like God's. Gen 3:22 The ToE is totally wrong. God Bless you

Are you the one who believes in Zacharia Sitchen?

 

[Aman777]

Because this evidence does not exist. If it did it would be one of the most monumental discoveries in human history and a huge tourist attraction. The flood is a myth and demonstrated by geology to never have happened. Please stop being dishonest.

Okay, I trust you better. Go here and explain the cause of the Spirals.

 

[Aman777]

Are you the one who believes in Zacharia Sitchen?

Nope. Not me. I started to look him up but I didn't. God Bless you

 

[JonFromMinnesota]

False, since the population after some 6 Million years was only a million prehistoric people. SUDDENLY the Ark arrives and brings Humans

What evidence do you have that shows a world wide flood happened and that there was an ark? (Scripture doesn't count since that is a claim). You continue to argue ad-nauseam with the same claims over and over and over and over again without providing a shred of evidence that back your claims.

to this Earth of prehistoric people, who evolved from the common ancestor of Apes, which means they were NOT Humans (descendants of Adam)

What is your definition of prehistoric people? How are they not humans? This is such a ridiculous claim. Please give a rational explanation of your reasoning here.

Were they? What is revealed is that today's scientists don't know the difference between prehistoric people who evolved from water

Wait you just said that they evolved from a common ape like ancestor.....now you're saying they evolved from water? You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Open a biology textbook please.

 

[JonFromMinnesota]

Okay, I trust you better. Go here and explain the cause of the Spirals.

What exactly are you trying to demonstrate here? Seems to me you're grasping at straws. I don't know what causes the spirals. I don't pretend to either. What are you claiming? A quick google search reveals a 7.2 magnitude earth quake in Turkey in 2011, so that could have something to do with it but I can't be certain.

Here is some research on Lake Van and the earth quake.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Van_earthquake
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Van

Again, not sure exactly what you're trying to show here. Maybe come with an explanation and some evidence to support whatever claim you are trying to make. Otherwise it looks like you're just throwing things at walls and hoping it will stick. Stop doing that.

 

[loveofourlord]

Oh, the 'you know nothing' clothing statement. Must be a day that ends with a 'y'.

As it happens, evolutionists do not have a proper explanation for the extreme succession of human prominence from ancestors. Mankind rose out of nowhere.

I just explained it too you how it happened, you don't care to know and just want to stick your fingers in your ears and pretend it's not there, you've shown no understanding of the subject.

 

[Crowns&Laurels]

I just explained it too you how it happened, you don't care to know and just want to stick your fingers in your ears and pretend it's not there, you've shown no understanding of the subject.

All you did was give an idea which hardly satisfies how the most complex object (the human brain) known to exist came about in such a short time.

You are the one who apparently does not care to know, you rather just want to force evolution.

 

[Aman777]

What evidence do you have that shows a world wide flood happened and that there was an ark? (Scripture doesn't count since that is a claim). You continue to argue ad-nauseam with the same claims over and over and over and over again without providing a shred of evidence that back your claims.

False, since Genesis shows us the latest scientific discoveries written 3k years ago. Since NO man of the time could have possibly known these Truths since some remain to be discovered, it is testable PROOF of the Literal God. A good example is that Gen 1:6 and Gen 2:4 confirm that we live in a Multiverse composed of at least 3 Universes.

What is your definition of prehistoric people? How are they not humans? This is such a ridiculous claim. Please give a rational explanation of your reasoning here.

Adam, the common ancestor of Humans, was made from the dust. Gen 2:7
The sons of God (prehistoric people) were made from the water. Gen 1:21

Humans are the descendants of Adam, the first Human, and NOT from the common ancestor of Apes. That was where prehistoric people came from. Humans came to this Earth in the Ark. Adam NEVER took a single step on Planet Earth.

Wait you just said that they evolved from a common ape like ancestor.....now you're saying they evolved from water? You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Open a biology textbook please.

FYI, the common ancestor of Apes evolved from the first life, which appeared in the WATER, on our Planet some 3.77 Billion years ago...according to Science. Did you think that the common ancestor came from nothing? Here's the chronology:

First, single celled life appeared at God's command in the WATER of Planet Earth.
After Billions of years, life crawled out of the water and eventually into the trees, becoming the common ancestor of Apes, who lived some 10 Million years or so ago, in man's time on Planet Earth.

According to Evolutionists, about 6 Million years ago, Humans (descendants of Adam) swung down from the trees, eventually put on a business suit and began teaching at the University. God tells us that a Human (Adam) was living on another world at that time and Adam was Special since he was first made some 10 Billion years BEFORE the first life came forth from the Water on Planet Earth. Adam also had an intelligence level like God's, which NO creature who evolved from water has. Gen 3:22

When Adam's world was "clean dissolved" in the Flood and the firmament, which protected Adam's Earth from being totally destroyed by the water which surrounded it Gen 1:6-8 the windows on top of the firmament were opened and Adam's world (Greek-Kosmos) Perished (Greek-destroyed totally). ll Peter 3:3-7 As Adam's firmament sank in Lake Van, Turkey some 11k years ago it released the Ark into the 75 mile wide Lake, in the mountains of Ararat.

In the last days of our Earth, Scoffers/Evolutionists will be "willingly ignorant" that Adam's Earth is gone and that his firmament/world is gone to the bottom of Lake Van. God Bless you

 

[Aman777]

What exactly are you trying to demonstrate here? Seems to me you're grasping at straws. I don't know what causes the spirals. I don't pretend to either. What are you claiming? A quick google search reveals a 7.2 magnitude earth quake in Turkey in 2011, so that could have something to do with it but I can't be certain.

Here is some research on Lake Van and the earth quake.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Van_earthquake
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Van

Again, not sure exactly what you're trying to show here. Maybe come with an explanation and some evidence to support whatever claim you are trying to make. Otherwise it looks like you're just throwing things at walls and hoping it will stick. Stop doing that.

You asked for evidence and when I present it, you ignore it and accuse me of grasping at straws. When I ask you for evidence you ignore it and keep asking me for more.

My point is that something is in the bottom of Lake Van, Turkey which has caused the volcanic sediment to form in a Spiral shape. It could be the solid firmament of Adam's world, which sank to the bottom of the Lake some 11k years ago. Of course, it could NOT be the firmament too. Someone should drill into the bottom of the Lake, and they are. You had better hurry before they find the firmament and get rich. Amen?

 

[Loudmouth]

Oh, the 'you know nothing' clothing statement. Must be a day that ends with a 'y'.

As it happens, evolutionists do not have a proper explanation for the extreme succession of human prominence from ancestors. Mankind rose out of nowhere.

Really?

 

[JonFromMinnesota]

You asked for evidence and when I present it, you ignore it and accuse me of grasping at straws. When I ask you for evidence you ignore it and keep asking me for more.

Nothing you present is evidence. Just claims. What is your definition of evidence?

You asked for evidence and when I present it, you ignore it and accuse me of grasping at straws. When I ask you for evidence you ignore it and keep asking me for more.

My point is that something is in the bottom of Lake Van, Turkey which has caused the volcanic sediment to form in a Spiral shape. It could be the solid firmament of Adam's world, which sank to the bottom of the Lake some 11k years ago. Of course, it could NOT be the firmament too. Someone should drill into the bottom of the Lake, and they are. You had better hurry before they find the firmament and get rich. Amen?

Source?

 

[The Cadet]

All you did was give an idea which hardly satisfies how the most complex object (the human brain) known to exist came about in such a short time.

"Short" time? The mammalian brain is a very old thing. The human brain is not exactly miles away from that.

 

[Loudmouth]

You asked for evidence and when I present it, you ignore it and accuse me of grasping at straws. When I ask you for evidence you ignore it and keep asking me for more.

My point is that something is in the bottom of Lake Van, Turkey which has caused the volcanic sediment to form in a Spiral shape. It could be the solid firmament of Adam's world, which sank to the bottom of the Lake some 11k years ago. Of course, it could NOT be the firmament too. Someone should drill into the bottom of the Lake, and they are. You had better hurry before they find the firmament and get rich. Amen?

In other words, you don't have any evidence, just claims.

 

[loveofourlord]

All you did was give an idea which hardly satisfies how the most complex object (the human brain) known to exist came about in such a short time.

You are the one who apparently does not care to know, you rather just want to force evolution.

the human brain isn't that much different from ape brain, only real difference is size, and partly connections, size wich I explained, complexity wich is explained by natural selection.

 

[Crowns&Laurels]

the human brain isn't that much different from ape brain, only real difference is size, and partly connections, size wich I explained, complexity wich is explained by natural selection.

I never brought up the size, I brought up the complexity which natural selection doesn't satisfy because, again, timing.

 

[Loudmouth]

I never brought up the size, I brought up the complexity which natural selection doesn't satisfy because, again, timing.

What timing are you referring to?

What units are you measuring brain complexity in? What are your measurements for the chimp and human brains?

 

[Crowns&Laurels]

"Short" time? The mammalian brain is a very old thing. The human brain is not exactly miles away from that.

There's a site dating to about 12000 BC, which is only a few hundred miles from Mount Ararat. Interestingly, it contains huge rocks carved in the shape of boat supports with animals engraved at the bottom of them.

The human brain doesn't seem too old, given that this is one of the oldest sites in the world. It's funny that mankind twiddled it's thumbs for hundreds of thousands of years according to evolution.