The origins of atheism

[Archaeopteryx]

When claiming faith in Gid is a fallacy we assume you have proof of a Godless universe, but when asked all you can provide is your faith in a Godless universe. You leave us with no choice but to observe your cause as a faith not a fact.

You already conceded that we don't need to definitively disprove the existence of God.

 

[DogmaHunter]

What was your reason for becoming a dogma hunter?

Because it is my opinion that dogmatic thinking (any species of dogmatic thinking) is going to end up in nastyness.
Dogma's are bad - no matter in which context.

 

[DogmaHunter]

When claiming faith in Gid is a fallacy we assume you have proof of a Godless universe, but when asked all you can provide is your faith in a Godless universe. You leave us with no choice but to observe your cause as a faith not a fact.

You need faith to believe an unsupported claim is TRUE.
You don't need faith to NOT believe an unsupported claim.

One requires faith to be a theist.
One does not require faith to not be a theist.

You need to believe something specific to be a theist.
When you do NOT believe that specific something, you are an atheist.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

I do, I am studying Orthodox Christian Pastoral theology at college in order to become a priest, that is why you are no one to teach me about christianity and that is why I am not saying you have no idea what you are talking about in order to insult you but to open your eyes to the possibility of being wrong.

Why are you assuming that one must study theology - specifically your theology - in great detail before one is permitted to examine it critically? What of those who have done so and are no longer believers, like this former seminary professor?

 

[SteveB28]

No, you have nothing.

I'm not the one wondering about the validity of the account of the killing of the infants.

The Bible says it, that settles it.

You aren't very good at this are you?

That's exactly what I said - that, outside of the stories in the Bible, you have nothing in the way of evidence to verify those stories.

You, however, seem to think there should be accounts laying around that somehow escaped the decaying forces of nature.

Yes, that's exactly what I think. King Herod supposedly orders that all those babies be slaughtered, yet we hear precisely nothing from all of those who would have chronicled events at that time.

Nothing. From Romans who meticulously recorded all the events that took place in their territories. Nothing.

God preserved His account by superintending its reproduction.

Man didn't do the same with his, and now you want us to give you the information ex Biblica?

Don't blame us for this -- blame the others.

Ice cubes are stored in the refrigerator, not in the sink.

Sadly pathetic.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Living spiritual truth is experienced in the heart of the believer. But spiritual truth is not static, dead truth. It has a short shelf life once it's realized, experienced. God is the Living Truth, we continually replenish our souls by communing with the spirit.

We have discussed this previously. (1, 2, 3)

 

[Colter]

Because it is my opinion that dogmatic thinking (any species of dogmatic thinking) is going to end up in nastyness.
Dogma's are bad - no matter in which context.

Your Atheist dogma is defiantly nasty, I agree with that.

 

[Colter]

We have discussed this previously. (1, 2, 3)

Yes, and you were just as unreachable then, what more can I say?

 

[Colter]

You need faith to believe an unsupported claim is TRUE.
You don't need faith to NOT believe an unsupported claim.

One requires faith to be a theist.
One does not require faith to not be a theist.

You need to believe something specific to be a theist.
When you do NOT believe that specific something, you are an atheist.

Belief is belief. A Godless existence is a belief about the universe. That changes when one is spirit born.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Yes, and you were just as unreachable then, what more can I say?

You can address the content. That's usually the best way to reach me.

 

[Colter]

You can address the content. That's usually the best way to reach me.

How would you have answered your questions to me when you were a believer?

 

[KCfromNC]

Roll over. Repeat.

Same answer. You are still not making any sense. Is this going anywhere or are you just making it up as you go along?

 

[Colter]

How long before some theists will learn?

Atheism is not a faith
Not a religion

The only thing atheists unanimously share is that we don't believe in god(s). Nothing more.

And of course a taste for BBQ baby ribs.

Atheism is a belief about the universe. I call it a kind of faith because you cannot definitively disprove God.

 

[KCfromNC]

Faith is the proof of religion. Reason is the proof of science.

Nope. Faith isn't proof of anything, it is just an opinion or a feeling. And science is backed up by empirical evidence, not reason.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Atheism is a belief about the universe. I call it a kind of faith because you cannot definitively disprove God.

You already conceded that we don't need to do that!

 

[AV1611VET]

Sadly pathetic.

Maybe so, but I'm not the one with nothing.

 

[Colter]

Nope. Faith isn't proof of anything, it is just an opinion or a feeling. And science is backed up by empirical evidence, not reason.

Do you deny that religion exists?

 

[Archaeopteryx]

How would you have answered your questions to me when you were a believer?

I'm not sure. I never felt the need to proselytise like you do.

 

[KCfromNC]

Atheism is a belief about the universe.

Nope, it is simply a lack of belief in a particular claim.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Your Atheist dogma is defiantly nasty, I agree with that.

We have also discussed this previously. (1)

 

[Colter]

I'm not sure. I never felt the need to proselytise like you do.

That's is a cop out. I will ask you again, think back to just a short time ago when you had faith, how would you have answered these clever questions you pepper believers with?