When did evolution begin?

[Aman777]

1. Wrong. You are using a loaded term. Scientists do not "reject God's truth". In fact the first geologists were Christians looking for confirming evidence of the Flood. They found that the evidence says that no such Flood ever occurred. Scientists are realists that will point out that there is no evidence for the Flood and if it was as large as claimed there definitely should be evidence of such a flood. In fact many Christians worldwide do not believe the Noah's Flood story means a worldwide flood since that would imply that God lied, since all of the physical evidence, which God would have had to have created, says there was no such Flood.

2. Why do you think the sudden emergence of human civilization is evidence for your belief? All of the evidence out there says this is the first significantly intelligent life that we have ever seen on this world. You don't have other intelligent life forms to compare and declare how rapidly they should advance one intelligence of note is formed.

1. There is a simple explanation for the Flood which today's scientists have not considered. The flood completely DESTROYED Adam's firmament/heaven BUT his world was NOT the present world. Adam's firmament, which God called Heaven was made on the 2nd Day Gen 1:6-8 and our Cosmos and the 3rd Heaven were made on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4 Adam's world was "clean dissolved" in the flood. Isa 24:19 Adam's firmament is at the bottom of Lake Van, Turkey because his world (Kosmos) was totally destroyed in the Flood ll Peter 3:3-7 releasing the Ark into our world.

God told us the Truth but ancient men could NOT possibly understand what was written and ONLY the people of the last days will have the scientific knowledge available to understand. The internet has provided this increased knowledge which allows us to understand that God told us the Literal Truth in Genesis IF you have the proper interpretation.

2. The Historic evidence shows that for 99% of the time since prehistoric people diverged from Chimps, they behaved like animals, living in holes and caves, never planting a crop or building a house like Adam's descendants did on the first Earth. Gen 4

SUDDENLY, in less that 1% of the time since prehistoric people diverged from Chimps, Humans (descendants of Adam) with the increased intelligence of Adam, which is like God's Gen 3:22 have taken us from caves to the moon and back. What is amazing is that the people who should have noticed, the scientists, have not seemed to notice. The reason WHY is simple. God's Truth doesn't AGREE with the False ToE. By the time these "Scoffers of the last days" agree, it will probably be too late for them. Amen?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Sure you do. You claimed that 99% of biologists embrace evolution without pointing out that various biologists embrace various views of evolution.

As I just pointed out no special qualifier is needed for that 99%. You have only a few nutcases that do not accept the theory of evolution. You are the one that is making false claims of "other types of evolution". Sorry, but that is just not the case. Once again, over 99% of biologists accept the theory of evolution as being essentially correct. They may have minor differences in their views. You are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.

Darwinist evolution is guided? Darwinist evolution is purpose driven?

I hesitate to ask you for any evidence for those claims, but the worse that can happen is for you to revert to your usual empty claims. So, present the evidence for those claims?

You still have not learned how to ask a question. Also it is clear that you do not understand the theory that you are trying to argue against. Evolution is guided by the changing environment. Its purpose is pretty clear, it has the purpose of survival.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You made a rediculous claim. You said....."my views are simply based upon observable evidence."

They're not.

Wrong again justlookinla, you are projecting again. But then you don't know what qualifies as evidence. So I am not surprised by your errors.

 

[Subduction Zone]

1. There is a simple explanation for the Flood which today's scientists have not considered. The flood completely DESTROYED Adam's firmament/heaven BUT his world was NOT the present world. Adam's firmament, which God called Heaven was made on the 2nd Day Gen 1:6-8 and our Cosmos and the 3rd Heaven were made on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4 Adam's world was "clean dissolved" in the flood. Isa 24:19 Adam's firmament is at the bottom of Lake Van, Turkey because his world (Kosmos) was totally destroyed in the Flood ll Peter 3:3-7 releasing the Ark into our world.

God told us the Truth but ancient men could NOT possibly understand what was written and ONLY the people of the last days will have the scientific knowledge available to understand. The internet has provided this increased knowledge which allows us to understand that God told us the Literal Truth in Genesis IF you have the proper interpretation.

2. The Historic evidence shows that for 99% of the time since prehistoric people diverged from Chimps, they behaved like animals, living in holes and caves, never planting a crop or building a house like Adam's descendants did on the first Earth. Gen 4

SUDDENLY, in less that 1% of the time since prehistoric people diverged from Chimps, Humans (descendants of Adam) with the increased intelligence of Adam, which is like God's Gen 3:22 have taken us from caves to the moon and back. What is amazing is that the people who should have noticed, the scientists, have not seemed to notice. The reason WHY is simple. God's Truth doesn't AGREE with the False ToE. By the time these "Scoffers of the last days" agree, it will probably be too late for them. Amen?

Sorry but all of the scientific evidence in he world tells us that you are wrong. And now you have to have the non-biblical view that there was another world since your beliefs are clearly wrong for this world. Yes, you can excuse anything if you claim "magic".

 

[justlookinla]

As I just pointed out no special qualifier is needed for that 99%. You have only a few nutcases that do not accept the theory of evolution. You are the one that is making false claims of "other types of evolution". Sorry, but that is just not the case. Once again, over 99% of biologists accept the theory of evolution as being essentially correct. They may have minor differences in their views. You are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.

No, they aren't minor differences in views, they're huge differences in views. One evolutionary view is that only naturalistic mechanisms created humanity, another evolutionary view is theistic evolution of which God is an essential part.

Your attempt to use evolution as a monolithic term is thus thwarted.

You still have not learned how to ask a question. Also it is clear that you do not understand the theory that you are trying to argue against. Evolution is guided by the changing environment. Its purpose is pretty clear, it has the purpose of survival.

I only have myself to blame for the hope that you would actually provide evidence for your creationist views.

 

[justlookinla]

Wrong again justlookinla, you are projecting again. But then you don't know what qualifies as evidence. So I am not surprised by your errors.

Well, your claim is there for all to see. "Observable evidence" simply means invisible evidence when it comes to any evidence from you.

 

[Aman777]

Sorry but all of the scientific evidence in he world tells us that you are wrong. And now you have to have the non-biblical view that there was another world since your beliefs are clearly wrong for this world. Yes, you can excuse anything if you claim "magic".

Ah, the old hand wave away the nutty Christian position, I see. Evolutionists, being afraid to debate specific points find it much easier to post weak, useless posts like the one above while avoiding the embarrassment of looking silly. You're not fooling anyone since everyone can now see your deceitful tactics. Thanks for demonstrating once again that you have NO answer for God's Truth. I knew it all along but it's really fun to see you run and hide....again. God Bless you old friend.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No, they aren't minor differences in views, they're huge differences in views. One evolutionary view is that only naturalistic mechanisms created humanity, another evolutionary view is theistic evolution of which God is an essential part.

Your attempt to use evolution as a monolithic term is thus thwarted.

If you want to claim that there is a significant number of biologists that accept your nonsense the burden of proof is upon you. I have supplied evidence that supports my claims. You have never supplied evidence that supports yours.

I only have myself to blame for the hope that you would actually provide evidence for your creationist views.

Sorry, I have no creationist views. You are projecting again.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Ah, the old hand wave away the nutty Christian position, I see. Evolutionists, being afraid to debate specific points find it much easier to post weak, useless posts like the one above while avoiding the embarrassment of looking silly. You're not fooling anyone since everyone can now see your deceitful tactics. Thanks for demonstrating once again that you have NO answer for God's Truth. I knew it all along but it's really fun to see you run and hide....again. God Bless you old friend.

No, I am more than willing to debate specific points. But you were the one that pointed out that your beliefs are as you put it "nutty".

I have never ran and hid hear, that is what happens time after time when I debate creationists.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Well, your claim is there for all to see. "Observable evidence" simply means invisible evidence when it comes to any evidence from you.

Wrong. You know that you disqualified from being able to demand evidence. You dishonestly denied evidence when it was provided to you. Once you do that you have to learn what evidence is before you can demand it again.

 

[justlookinla]

If you want to claim that there is a significant number of biologists that accept your nonsense the burden of proof is upon you. I have supplied evidence that supports my claims. You have never supplied evidence that supports yours.

Well, now you're introducing the subjective quantifier of 'significant number'. something which I didn't claim. The fact is, various biologists embrace various views of evolution. They all aren't proponents of evolutionism, a sub-sect within the broad use of the term 'evolution'. Some reject evolutionism in favor of a theistic view of how humanity was created.

Sorry, I have no creationist views. You are projecting again.

Everyone has a creationist view. Humanity was created somehow, by something is a fact that you, nor anyone else, can dismiss.

 

[justlookinla]

Wrong again justlookinla, you are projecting again. But then you don't know what qualifies as evidence. So I am not surprised by your errors.

You have a false faith based view, my views are simply based upon observable evidence.

I'm not surprised you're not taking ownership of your baseless claim. You claimed you have observable evidence. We find now it's nothing more than your fertile imagination.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Well, now you're introducing the subjective quantifier of 'significant number'. something which I didn't claim. The fact is, various biologists embrace various views of evolution. They all aren't proponents of evolutionism, a sub-sect within the broad use of the term 'evolution'. Some reject evolutionism in favor of a theistic view of how humanity was created.

In any significantly large group you will have a handful of losers and idiots. My claim was always that over 99% of all biologists accepted the theory of evolution as being correct. You were the one that tried to try to claim otherwise. Now instead of admitting a mistake you try to justify it. That is not honest.

Everyone has a creationist view. Humanity was created somehow, by something is a fact that you, nor anyone else, can dismiss.

If you are going to be that foolish by the same logic everyone is an "evolutionist". And again, mangling the English language is not honest. Thanks for continuing to show that there is no such thing as an honest and informed creationist.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I'm not surprised you're not taking ownership of your baseless claim. You claimed you have observable evidence. We find now it's nothing more than your fertile imagination.

You are the one that has failed at the concept of evidence time after time. That is why I offered to help you. Every time that I offer you evidence you dishonestly deny it.

Why should I offer you evidence again?

 

[Aman777]

No, I am more than willing to debate specific points. But you were the one that pointed out that your beliefs are as you put it "nutty".

I have never ran and hid hear, that is what happens time after time when I debate creationists.

Then show us the EVIDENCE of How and When prehistoric people evolved their Human intelligence. Show us HOW mutations and long periods of time produced the superior intelligence of Humans in the common ancestors of apes. You cannot and that is the reason the False ToE is wrong. Amen?

 

[justlookinla]

In any significantly large group you will have a handful of losers and idiots. My claim was always that over 99% of all biologists accepted the theory of evolution as being correct. You were the one that tried to try to claim otherwise. Now instead of admitting a mistake you try to justify it. That is not honest.

Those biologists have various views concerning evolution and how humanity was created. The 99% aren't unified as to how humanity was created, for example. Also, you shouldn't label those who believe the evolutionary view of Godless evolution as "losers and idiots", they're not....they're simply embracing their faith-based view of how humanity was created.

If you are going to be that foolish by the same logic everyone is an "evolutionist". And again, mangling the English language is not honest. Thanks for continuing to show that there is no such thing as an honest and informed creationist.

You are speaking of the Godless evolutionary creationist, aren't you?

 

[justlookinla]

You are the one that has failed at the concept of evidence time after time. That is why I offered to help you. Every time that I offer you evidence you dishonestly deny it.

Why should I offer you evidence again?

You have a false faith based view, my views are simply based upon observable evidence.

You've observed a single life form evolve into a human? Your imagination seems to be running wild.

 

[justlookinla]

Then show us the EVIDENCE of How and When prehistoric people evolved their Human intelligence. Show us HOW mutations and long periods of time produced the superior intelligence of Humans in the common ancestors of apes. You cannot and that is the reason the False ToE is wrong. Amen?

I'm telling ya, he's not going to do it. He's never done anything but make empty claims sprinkled with meaningless boasts.

 

[Loudmouth]

No, but it seems that I am not the only person who has noticed that you NEVER support your views with actual data.

The complete lack of pre-integration sites in the human genome for ERV's that are fixed in multiple other primate species falsifies your fantasies. This evidence still stands.

 

[Loudmouth]

It is incomplete because it's false assumptions REJECT God's Truth of the Flood.

The lack of pre-integration sites for in the human genome for ERV's that are fixed in other primate species is not an assumption. It is an observation. It falsifies your fantasies.