RAPTURE***Who is the bride

[WailingWall]

So when the 1Cor.15 event happens, who is the bride that meets the Lord in the air?

 

[vinsight4u]

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[WailingWall]

the saints/the church/ the just/the saved in Jesus Christ

The wife that puts on righteousness in Rev. 19.

Hello Vinsight4u
You say the bride is the saints the church? Are you speaking of the sunday mornin go to meeting church? If so theres a problem

REV.14 [12] Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS of God, and the faith of Jesus

The saints will be keeping Gods 10 commandments. The sunday mornin church goers do not. They have cast away Gods 4th commandment

 

[Straightshot]

Response to the OP

[Matthew 25:1-13; Revelation 3:10; 4:4; 5:1-10; 7:9-17; 11:1; 12:12; 13:6; 17:14; 18:4; 19:1-9; 19:14; 20:4 [those on thrones]]

Those with oil [holy spirit filled]

Seen in heaven before, during, and after the coming tribulation

 

[vinsight4u]

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[Straightshot]

"People need to stop trying to make those in Rev. 4:4 the church"


The 24 elders are just a part .... one must include the other scriptures listed

 

[vinsight4u]

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[Ranting]

One day when we least expect it, He’ll come like a thief in the night and spirit us away to our new home. For the Lord Himself will come down from Heaven with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so will we be with the Lord forever. (1 Thes. 4:16-17).

In Heaven the King and His Bride will be hidden away in our rooms, while on Earth the last seven years of human history unfold (Isa. 26:19-20). At the end, following the Marriage Supper of the Lamb (Rev. 19:7-9), we’ll return together to rule and reign for 1000 years, and then it’s off to our eternal life with Him. Praise the Lord.

 

[vinsight4u]

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[Straightshot]

"There is nothing in the parable of the ten virgins as to what kind of oil they have.
It is a type that lights up lamps. You don't buy and sell holy Spirit/ type of oil."


You say this ...... very funny !!!

Does the Lord know what He is talking about?

Maybe you should ask him

What He said creates a problem for your post tribulation view .... and so you give some off the wall rebuttal to protect

Make certain that you read what He says about those have no oil [Revelation 3:15-19]

Do not end up on the wrong side of the door

 

[vinsight4u]

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[vinsight4u]

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[nonanomanon]

So when the 1Cor.15 event happens, who is the bride that meets the Lord in the air?

(Link - Fool’s Cap Map of the World, 1580-1590) (Top)
(Link - Abraham Ortelius World Atlas, 1570) (Bottom)

The United States of America is declared as the Bride that Meets the Lord in the Air, of 1 Chronicles 15, the United States of America is given Angel's Wings to do so, as the "Heart of Judah", on two separate accounts. It is "Zion the Heart of Judah", that meets the Lord in the Air during the 150 Days of the Antichrist's Reign ... Lets view the "Fool's Cap World Map" as an equation below:

Great Comet of 1680 to "Seventeenth Day of the Seventh Month"

GENESIS 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.
II CORINTHIANS 12:2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth such an one caught up to the third heaven.

November 14, 1680 (Great Comet seen from Heaven on the Fourteenth according to IICor12:2) ........ then the "Third Heaven", or the New Temple of Star Wormwood is seen descending from Heaven, Rev. 21:10.

If we correct the language to follow Genesis 7:11, the "Great Deep Comet", to the "Seventeenth Day of the Seventh Month". Then the Gospel is talking about showing the "Body of Christ, which is the Body of Benjamin", the "Temple Stones", that mark the "40 Days of Repentance". Jesus's Body is a picture of the "Third Temple", which is later revealed when Star Wormwood is Revealed, then the "Heart of Judah is caught up into the Air to Meet Christ" for 150 days.

I CORINTHIANS 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
I CORINTHIANS 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
I CORINTHIANS 15:24 Then [cometh] the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

Christ is going to give Adam the "Tree of Life", at the end of time. The "Tree of Life", is another name for Star Wormwood. First Christ comes as a the "Body of Benjamin" the "Temple Stones for 40 Days of Repentance" (Christ the First Fruits)............ Then "afterward", Star Wormwood comes under Joseph (a picture of Christ), to take the "Heart of Judah" into the air to be redeemed for their Separatist Inheritance*.

(Before we briefly say a few words about 7/17/2015 in the City of Philadelphia, lets look at another equation)

I CHRONICLES 27:8 The fifth captain for the fifth month [was] Shamhuth the Izrahite: and in his course [were] twenty and four thousand.
I CHRONICLES 7:7 And the sons of Bela; Ezbon, and Uzzi, and Uzziel, and Jerimoth, and Iri, five; heads of the house of [their] fathers, mighty men of valour; and were reckoned by their genealogies twenty and two thousand and thirty and four.

11/14/1680 to 7/17/2015 (Dan of the Shumanites (Num 26:42), to Bela of Benjamin which are the Ahiramites/Izrahite (Num 26:38))

1. 24,000 Days
2. 24,000 Days
3. 24,000 Days
4. 24,000 Days
5. 24,000 Days

Following the language of the gospel there is rougly 5 sets of 24,000 days between the Great Comet of 1680 and the "40 Days of Repentance", under the authority of the Antichrist.

(I will need, rather you will need, to establish your own rhythm for the "40 Days of Repentance" .... opening up a minigun onto a city block, in an attempt to kill the antichrist, only resulting in the deaths of scores of people .... and a blotched cover up in terms of what was reported to the citizens is not the way to go, which has happened recently, and in the past more then once. Like 9/11/2001, and we don't know who tipped you off, but, you will be there to make your own discovery and you will gradually grow into doing the things we talked about, this is to done soon, and the natural conclusion of the human race will enter its final phase, beginning in less then 7 days .... the antichrist does not have the authority to enforce what will save the most of the potential, globally, humanity will simply need to be faithful .... that is all for now)

 

[Dave Watchman]

REV.14 [12] Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS of God, and the faith of Jesus
The saints will be keeping Gods 10 commandments. The sunday mornin church goers do not. They have cast away Gods 4th commandment

Hi WailingWall,

And I'm in agreement with you as I rest during this wonderful Sabbath Day that the Lord has made. But that's my choice just based on my read that IT may be soon, or so I think. The point is that I'm not being forced or coerced to worship on any certain day.

When the 1 Corinthians 15 event happens, we will have gone through a different twist in God's plan of Salvation. During the 1260 days of the great tribulation the living will be judged in real time. The living will judge themselves:

“If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink the wine of God's wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.”​

So by the time the tribulation is finished, everyone alive will either have The Seal of God or The Mark of The Beast. The people who have passed on prior to the start of the tribulation never had to go through any of this, all they had to do was believe. So the rapture of the living has to be on the "last day" after the 7th Trumpet and all participants will be Sabbath keepers. The numberless multitude coming out of the great tribulation will have celebrity status in the New Jerusalem.

"And the dragon was enraged with the woman,
and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who
keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ". - Revelation 12:17​

"Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who
keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus".- Revelation 14:12​

"Blessed are those who
do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life,
and may enter through the gates into the city". - Revelation 22:14​

So in the end time Book of Revelation we read three times:


KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS
KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS
DO HIS COMMANDMENTS

Notice also at The Seventh Trumpet:

"Then the temple of God was opened in heaven, and the ark of His covenant was seen in His temple. And there were lightnings, noises, thunderings, an earthquake, and great hail". - Revelation 11:19​

Why are they making such a big deal about this? What is kept in The Ark of His Covenant?

The Ten Commandments?

“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male servant, or your female servant, or your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates.

For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy" - Exodus 20:8​

“Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.” - Revelation 14:6​

Have a peaceful rest of the Sabbath

 

[Straightshot]

"The wise virgins would not be telling others to go buy the holy Spirit."


This is exactly what they will tell them ..... the ones without oil are not saved

These who profess only have been feeding in the wrong places and placing their fate into the hands of false teachers rather than seeking the Lord for themselves .... and as a result they have become complacent and they are not saved

Do you know that a man has to be filled with the Lord's holy spirit in order to be saved?

Most of the professing "church" have no oil today, but are just pretenders

And when the Lord shuts the door, these will find themselves on the wrong side of the door and in the tribulation [Revelation 3:9-20]

I know that you are against the Lord's pre-tribulation "harpazo" action .... and so you must ignore His warning in Matthew 25:1-13 and Revelation 3:9-20

..... but do not second guess Him

 

[WailingWall]

Response to the OP

[Matthew 25:1-13;

And again. Then the bride cannot be the sunday mornin church goers

MATTHEW 25 [1] Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. [2] And FIVE OF THEM WERE WISE, and five were foolish. [3] They that were foolish took THEIR LAMPS, and took NO OIL with them: [4] But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.

Verse 2...five were wise

PSALM 111 [10] The fear of the LORD is the beginning of WISDOM: a good understanding have all they that DO HIS COMMANDMENTS: his praise endureth for ever.

Wise? Do His commandments

EXODUS 39 [37] The pure candlestick, with the lamps thereof, even with the lamps to be set in order, and all the vessels thereof, and the OIL FOR LIGHT,

PROVERBS 6 [23] For THE COMMANDMENT IS A LAMP; and THE LAW IS LIGHT; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life:

Seems 5 virgins were not able to light their lamps. Why? They had no oil for light. The law is light. They werent keeping Gods law.

 

[Straightshot]

"And again. Then the bride cannot be the sunday mornin church goers"


This is true .... one must be filled with the Lord's holy spirit [the oil]

John
3:1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

3:2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

3:9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?

3:10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

3:11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.

3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?


However, "law keeping" is not required for salvation ..... no one can keep the law 100% all of the time

The Christian is to strive to please the Lord in all things, but He does the saving .... one cannot save themselves by keeping the law

Are you a 7th Day Adventist?

 

[nonanomanon]

Dan as the Bride of Judah, when Judah is identified as the Bride of Christ (Marriage by Fire revealed by the "Body of Benjamin", the "Temple Stones")

ACTS 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
ACTS 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
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MATTHEW 12:41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas [is] here.
MATTHEW 12:42 The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon [is] here.

The Gospel tells us not only that the 5 Foolish Virgins are told to buy oil by the 5 Wise Virgins. But the Gospel goes on to say that, the 5 Foolish Virgins are able to buy oil from the 5 Wise Virgins, this is a picture of Marriage. Paraphrasing, Acts 1:8-9, the "Body of Benjamin is revealed a picture of the Holy Ghost", then "Judea and Sumeria" are called to marriage, at the same time, the Lord is waiting in the Air for Judah. ............ Matthew restates this same language, but Matthew issues a correction, the "Marriage does not apply to Nineveh", the Gospel seems to adjust this value to India, we said a few things about marriage in a previous discussion.

 

[WailingWall]

Hi WailingWall,

Notice also at The Seventh Trumpet:

"Then the temple of God was opened in heaven, and the ark of His covenant was seen in His temple. And there were lightnings, noises, thunderings, an earthquake, and great hail". - Revelation 11:19

Why are they making such a big deal about this? What is kept in The Ark of His Covenant?

The Ten Commandments?

Have a peaceful rest of the Sabbath

Yeah Dave,

Coming soon. Early the 3rd day. A 1000yrs is as a day. We are very close to that 3rd day

Exodus 19:15-19 (KJV)
15 And he said unto the people, Be ready against the third day: come not at your wives.
16 And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of the trumpet {1Cor.15} exceeding loud; so that all the people that was in the camp trembled.
17 And Moses brought forth the people out of the camp to meet with God; and they stood at the nether part of the mount.
18 And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the LORD descended upon it in fire: and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly.

And may you also have a wonderful sabbath day

 

[WailingWall]

the "Marriage does not apply to Nineveh", the Gospel seems to adjust this value to India, we said a few things about marriage in a previous discussion.

India??? I was sure it was Borneo