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well where does it say I will write just "some" of the laws on hearts?...hehehehe
If you are referring to the rest of the 613 laws of the OT, all I can say is that I gave you too much credit.
I do tend to do that a lot.
I will say, however, that I had a serious talk with a certified hospital nutritionist some years ago, when I first began having health issues.
That person told me that, if we Americans would actually follow God's dietary laws (the ones found in Leviticus, I believe it is), that we'd all live a lot longer and healthier lives.
Just as a for example.
In other words, God wasn't just sitting around on a cloud making up a bunch of laws to be difficult...there were good reasons for all of them.
Not that I am suggesting that they are still binding...but we can still learn from God.
He is still a lot wiser than we are...
 
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If you are referring to the rest of the 613 laws of the OT, all I can say is that I gave you too much credit.
I do tend to do that a lot.
I will say, however, that I had a serious talk with a certified hospital nutritionist some years ago, when I first began having health issues.
That person told me that, if we Americans would actually follow God's dietary laws (the ones found in Leviticus, I believe it is), that we'd all live a lot longer and healthier lives.
Just as a for example.
In other words, God wasn't just sitting around on a cloud making up a bunch of laws to be difficult...there were good reasons for all of them.
Not that I am suggesting that they are still binding...but we can still learn from God.
He is still a lot wiser than we are...
I want text.....text..please...i don't care abut a nutritionist thanks!
 
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Anyway, once again, it is after 11:00 at night here in Alabama where I live.
And the laptop is on the charger...making it difficult to type.
Hopefully the concisions will not eat my little Froggie and his biggie friend, and I will see you guys again...maybe tomorrow...or maybe not.
Much depends on my daughter...she has some plans, but hasn't told me what they are yet.
G'night, guys!!
 
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Anyway, once again, it is after 11:00 at night here in Alabama where I live.
And the laptop is on the charger...making it difficult to type.
Hopefully the concisions will not eat my little Froggie and his biggie friend, and I will see you guys again...maybe tomorrow...or maybe not.
Much depends on my daughter...she has some plans, but hasn't told me what they are yet.
G'night, guys!!
good night....:sleep: sleep tight, you and your daughter. frog.
 
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I want text.....text..please...i don't care abut a nutritionist thanks!
What, are you saying that God just made that stuff up?
Whatever, Dude.
God is very real to me...not just some religious thing, but a real, living God. And I honestly believe that He knows better than I do what is good for me.
What, was He just messing around with the Israelites, do you think?
:rolleyes:
 
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I have wondered for some time why some folks get all bent out of shape over the Sabbath command. I honestly do not get it. Of the ten, it seems to me that this would be the most welcome. A day of rest! A day to lie in the hammock with a good book, a day for the kids to do nothing but play...a day to enjoy!
Why in the world would anyone object to this?
Could someone here please explain this to me?
It is of God and anything that is of God satan attacks/hates.
 
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Do you really mean some object to doing nothing? You must be putting us on. People love getting a day off from work even without pay. Some even plan for it. I was told about some supervisor denying some avid hunters for their well known annual time off to deer hunt. They staged a fight right in front of them and got their wish. They were already loaded up laded up in the parking lot their of work place. Some people will never understand.

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Yes some here do not have a vague idea what is being talked about and resort to promoting laziness. I take many days off and do not do much of anything except feed the dogs. It is not a religious thing for me.
 
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I have answered you.
I believe that the law in the New Covenant is the same ten commandments as I already said.
What is new and different is that God will write these laws within our hearts. He will send His spirit to be an intimate part of us, so that we will not have to be taught about Him by some chosen priesthood...we, ourselves, will be priests and kings with Him.
And finally, what is in the New Covenant that was not in the old is grace. God says that He will put our sins far from us.
It isn't a different law...it is a different way of giving the law. It is a different relationship with our God.
It is grace...
Since I have no desire to keep the Sabbath, are saying that I am not a Christian?
 
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What, are you saying that God just made that stuff up?
Whatever, Dude.
God is very real to me...not just some religious thing, but a real, living God. And I honestly believe that He knows better than I do what is good for me.
What, was He just messing around with the Israelites, do you think?
:rolleyes:
are you an Israelite to whom the law was given?
The bible says you were not.
 
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are you an Israelite to whom the law was given?
The bible says you were not.
Was the Ten commandments for Israelites or for all peoples? Have one God is for Jews alone or for you and me? Yes or no! Can all other nations lie, steal and kill and be blameless before God? NO!!! So to say that the ten commandments is for the Israelites alone is an outright lie!!!! Rev. 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
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14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Mat. 19:
16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Is Jesus a liar!!!!
 
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Was the Ten commandments for Israelites or for all peoples? Have one God is for Jews alone or for you and me? Yes or no! Can all other nations lie, steal and kill and be blameless before God? NO!!! So to say that the ten commandments is for the Israelites alone is an outright lie!!!! Rev. 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
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14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Mat. 19:
16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Is Jesus a liar!!!!
here is who got the law...not gentiles, not the church!






The law WAS NOT GIVEN TO GENTILES!

Declared to who???? With no other nation, that would be Gentiles!

Psalm 147:19 He declares his word to Jacob, his statutes and rules to Israel.20 He has not dealt thus with any other nation; (gentiles mine) they do not know his rules.
Praise the LORD!


Who were the Sabbaths for? Who????

2 Chronicles 2:4 Behold, I am about to build a house for the name of the LORD my God and dedicate it to him for the burning of incense of sweet spices before him, and for the regular arrangement of the showbread, and for burnt offerings morning and evening, on the Sabbaths and the new moons and the appointed feasts of the LORD our God, as ordained forever for Israel.


Passover of the Gentiles, or Jews?


John 2:13
The Passover of the Jews was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.

John 6:4
Now the Passover, the feast of the Jews, was at hand.

John 11:55
Now the Passover of the Jews was at hand, and many went up from the country to Jerusalem before the Passover to purify themselves


One had to be Jewish, circumcised to keep the feast.

Exodus 12:48
When a stranger sojourning with you wishes to keep the Passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land. But no uncircumcised person shall eat of it.

Not Gentiles! They were WITHOUT the law!

1 Cor 9:21 To those outside the law (gentiles mine) I became as one outside the law (not being outside the law of God but under the law of Christ) that I might win those outside the law.


Rom 2:12 For all who have sinned without the law (gentiles mine)will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law.


Lookie here, not with the FATHERS....the old cov, lol!


Deuteronomy5:3
Not with our fathers did the Lord make this covenant, but with us, who are all of us here alive today.


Gentiles walked in THEIR WAYS, not Jewish ways.


Acts 14:16
In past generations he allowed all the nations (Gentiles) to walk in their own ways.

Acts 17:30The times of ignorance (Gentiles) God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent,


Peter said the ignorance word too, about gentiles, they were not under the law.1 Peter 1:14 As obedient children, do not be conformed to the passions of your former ignorance,


Look who got the law, the ISRAELITES!

Romans 9:4 They are Israelites, and to them belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises.

 
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Stumbling block, if one tries to come to Him by law, all showing that if one tries to come to Him by law, he will stumble, all showing that the road to the Lord, can't be law. Jesus, Peter and Paul all said the same thing.

Matt 21:42
Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures:
“‘The stone that the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone;
this was the Lord's doing,
and it is marvelous in our eyes’?



Rom 9:32
Why? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as if it were based on works. They have stumbled over the stumbling stone, 33 as it is written,
“Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense;
and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame.”


1 Peter 2:6
For it stands in Scripture:
“Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone,
a cornerstone chosen and precious,
and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame.”
7 So the honor is for you who believe, but for those who do not believe,
“The stone that the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone,”
8 and“A stone of stumbling,
and a rock of offense.”

They stumble because they disobey the word, as they were destined to do.

The context for this quotation is Isaiah 28

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+28&version=KJV

The stumbling block is not about disobeying the word; it is about lack of righteousness, and in particular a lack of righteousness based on a particularly smug reading of Scripture which follows line by line, precept by precept but which misses the heart of the law; mercy.

In other words the stumbling block is not for 'them.' It is a warning for us all. Unless our righteousness exceeds that of the Pharisees we are in trouble. The 'word' will not save us. Love, mercy and compassion are needed.

http://biblehub.com/matthew/5-20.htm
 
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The context for this quotation is Isaiah 28

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+28&version=KJV

The stumbling block is not about disobeying the word; it is about lack of righteousness, and in particular a lack of righteousness based on a particularly smug reading of Scripture which follows line by line, precept by precept but which misses the heart of the law; mercy.

In other words the stumbling block is not for 'them.' It is a warning for us all. Unless our righteousness exceeds that of the Pharisees we are in trouble. The 'word' will not save us. Love, mercy and compassion are needed.

http://biblehub.com/matthew/5-20.htm
no, it is about the law..

31 but that Israel who pursued a law that would lead to righteousnessd]">[d] did not succeed in reaching that law. 32 Why? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as if it were based on works. They have stumbled over the stumbling stone,
 
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here is who got the law...not gentiles, not the church!






The law WAS NOT GIVEN TO GENTILES!

Declared to who???? With no other nation, that would be Gentiles!

Psalm 147:19 He declares his word to Jacob, his statutes and rules to Israel.20 He has not dealt thus with any other nation; (gentiles mine) they do not know his rules.
Praise the LORD!


Who were the Sabbaths for? Who????

2 Chronicles 2:4 Behold, I am about to build a house for the name of the LORD my God and dedicate it to him for the burning of incense of sweet spices before him, and for the regular arrangement of the showbread, and for burnt offerings morning and evening, on the Sabbaths and the new moons and the appointed feasts of the LORD our God, as ordained forever for Israel.


Passover of the Gentiles, or Jews?


John 2:13
The Passover of the Jews was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.

John 6:4
Now the Passover, the feast of the Jews, was at hand.

John 11:55
Now the Passover of the Jews was at hand, and many went up from the country to Jerusalem before the Passover to purify themselves


One had to be Jewish, circumcised to keep the feast.

Exodus 12:48
When a stranger sojourning with you wishes to keep the Passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land. But no uncircumcised person shall eat of it.

Not Gentiles! They were WITHOUT the law!

1 Cor 9:21 To those outside the law (gentiles mine) I became as one outside the law (not being outside the law of God but under the law of Christ) that I might win those outside the law.


Rom 2:12 For all who have sinned without the law (gentiles mine)will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law.


Lookie here, not with the FATHERS....the old cov, lol!


Deuteronomy5:3
Not with our fathers did the Lord make this covenant, but with us, who are all of us here alive today.


Gentiles walked in THEIR WAYS, not Jewish ways.


Acts 14:16
In past generations he allowed all the nations (Gentiles) to walk in their own ways.

Acts 17:30The times of ignorance (Gentiles) God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent,


Peter said the ignorance word too, about gentiles, they were not under the law.1 Peter 1:14 As obedient children, do not be conformed to the passions of your former ignorance,


Look who got the law, the ISRAELITES!

Romans 9:4 They are Israelites, and to them belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises.
All that you have said is invalid! Why? Because all the bible and the gospel was given to the Jews. Jesus was Jew, so was the apostles, prophets, disciples and patriarchs. Salvation is of the Jews. Jesus said so. John 4: 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
Are we to serve God alone? Yes! First of the Ten.
This alone shows you to be WRONG!
 
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All that you have said is invalid! Why? Because all the bible and the gospel was given to the Jews. Jesus was Jew, so was the apostles, prophets, disciples and patriarchs. Salvation is of the Jews. Jesus said so. John 4: 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
Are we to serve God alone? Yes! First of the Ten.
This alone shows you to be WRONG!
please. are we saved by judaism>

heheheh..no!~
 
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