If you understood geology, you would know that the geologic formations and rocks are the time machines.
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How many dozens of Christians did creationism drive away this past hour?
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If you understood geology, you would know that the geologic formations and rocks are the time machines.
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Are you not capable, of giving, honest, straightforward answers? Let your yes, be yes, and your no, be no. The answer, is no, correct? You do not work in the field of biology. You are not a student, of biology. Bill Gates got rich, by knowing what he was doing, and the products of his work being successful.
Anyone, can say whatever they please, about evolution & biology, yes, of course, this is true. You have that right. Others, they have the right, to not give your statements credence. People have said on here, that the earth is flat, that NASA's findings, don't speak for them.
Do you not realise, how some of the exasperation, the creationist student felt, in the article Artamis posed, it is due, to antics, such as yours? This is what happened. A biology professor was quoted as stating, "I continue to teach biology as I do, because biology makes sense only in the light of evolution." You then misrepresented the quote, as "nothing makes sense except in the light of evolution." Your mistake was corrected. No didn't edit your post, to correct your error, no. You then wrote, "It would be even more accurate if the evolutionist would say " Nothing in biology make sense except in the light of evolution to me." They want to speak for everyone." That's another misrepresentation, you must realise? It makes it seem, that you are in the paid profession of teaching, or working in biology, or a biology student, and the quote doesn't represent your professional / academic stance.
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From the article " I remind them that evolution is the foundation of our science,..." So he believes it's goes beyond than just biology. Now the foundations of science which science lays can't in turn be proven by science.
Nothing makes sense in biology except... would even include man himself.
Nothing makes sense in biology except... would even include man himself.
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That didn't answer my question. What science is he doing? Where did your cited scientist claim that evolution includes all of our knowledge?
What intelligent design science are we keeping out? Where is the research?
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You do not seem to be very aware of the scientific method or science in general. The reason that no one pays any heed to "Intelligent design" is that there is no scientific evidence for it. And that is the fault of creationists. To have scientific evidence one must first devise a scientific hypothesis. That means a testable hypothesis. If a hypothesis cannot be shown to be wrong, that is called being falsifiable it is by definition not a scientific idea. I have asked many times what falsifiable hypotheses creation scientists have ever made and to date there have not been any. Yet the theory of evolution is testable. it is falsifiable, useful predictions have been made with the theory of evolution. I know of none made with ID.
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That's your claim, not the scientist you are citing.
What evolution tells us is how man got the physical features he did, and how the human genome came about. Evolution doesn't cover all knowledge.
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You become a scientist by going to school and getting experience in science. There is no "science" gene.
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If nothing in biology make sense except in the light of evolution would including man's belief that nothing in biology make sense except in the light of evolution.
It goes back to my original statement, man claiming "nothing make sense except in the light of evolution" ( the full conclusion ) is the same as an ape thinking "nothing make sense except in the light of bananas".
If you can speak and think outside your biological body then you are physically dead.
It goes back to my original statement, man claiming "nothing make sense except in the light of evolution" ( the full conclusion ) is the same as an ape thinking "nothing make sense except in the light of bananas".
If you can speak and think outside your biological body then you are physically dead.
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That may be more in the realm of philosophy, but Dawkins may have said it best. The reason that we respect science is because "It works .......!"
The problem with ID is that it is of no value at all. It has no scientific support. The best that they have been able to do is to point to unsolved problems in evolution. This is disingenuous at best because all sciences will have unsolved problems.
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Classic. You give a convoluted response, to a simple question, to avoid giving a straight one. Refuse to acknowledge your own errors, much less correct then, then you quote mine, and pervert things again.
The quote the Biology professor gave was in response to a question his colleagues asked. "I remind them that evolution is the foundation of our science."
This part of the article, was about the biology professor's former student, who had been a creationist whilst in his class: "Now a doctor, he explained to me that, at the time, he was so upset with my seminar that he attended a number of creationists’ public lectures for evidence I was wrong. He said he found himself embarrassed by how badly these individuals perverted Christian teachings, as well as known facts, to make their argument."
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