Is seal clubbing moral? Why or why not? For me, the only logical answer is that it is completely evil to murder animals for luxury items.
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There is nothing immoral about killing animals out of necessity, such as for food or warmth. But for looks? Please. You don't have to have a degree in ethics to know this is wrong.
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The only reason that seal harvests are an issue is because the animals are cute and the way they are killed makes for dramatic photos.
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Just to clarify, what I was getting at with the taste question is, most of the killing that goes on in slaughterhouses has little to do with necessity and a lot do do with satisfying the taste buds of humans.
For example, when you buy bacon, are you buying it because you feel it is necessary for your survival or because you enjoy eating bacon?
Its probably necessary for optimal human health to eat small amounts of animal products 2 or 3 times per month and I would not argue with that. But it is definitely not necessary to eat animal products with every meal or to have hot dog eating contests etc. So Im saying all of this extra animal killing is immoral, for the same reason seal slaughter is. The immorality arises from the attitude that human pleasure alone is worth the suffering and death of animals.
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If people were to break their food shopping down to subsistence level meat would be the least of the changes.
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KitKatMatt
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There's nothing wrong with harvesting animals for luxury reasons.
As long as they're not a protected species, out of season, or being abused/tortured instead of being killed quickly and humanely, then there shouldn't be any issue.
We need to respect and treat humanely the animals we use and harvest.
I think we could do with using animals as a resource a lot less than we do now, but that's just my own opinion. I don't think there's anything wrong with using them, even if it's for "luxury" items.
As long as they're not a protected species, out of season, or being abused/tortured instead of being killed quickly and humanely, then there shouldn't be any issue.
We need to respect and treat humanely the animals we use and harvest.
I think we could do with using animals as a resource a lot less than we do now, but that's just my own opinion. I don't think there's anything wrong with using them, even if it's for "luxury" items.
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Seal clubbing is just as moral as lobster fishing except for two things: baby seals look cuter and so we think of them as though they were human babies. We don't care about lobsters. Second, clubbing anything seems barbaric, but if it's quick and effective, it's certainly no less humane than boiling the creature alive!
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I say it moral. One blow usually does the trick. Fur is much warmer than this plastic fake stuff and it last longer also. It's actually more cost effective to get one fur for a decade or two than a new crap coat every year.
Evil? I like being warm in winter.
So its moral to kill if it is useful and cost-effective for the killer?
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