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Schools that teach creationism in the science class.

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Is that what you cull from such a good question?

If I was an evolutionist, I would welcome that question.


I take it you've never seen Little House on the Prairie?

Yup, I just find it annoying because it is asked so frequently, and only people who have never put any time into learning about evolution from anything besides a creationist site ever ask it. It is the first sign of a boring, frustrating debate that is unlikely to go anywhere. I dread questions like that, not because the challenge my knowledge or even my position, but because the ensuing discussion is bound to only challenge my patience, and little else.

You would welcome that question about as much as you would welcome "if Jesus was god in human form, doesn't that mean that he had original sin"? And if people asked over, and over, and over...

I am not into those kinds of movies, but I know it doesn't take place in modern times.
 
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Yup, I just find it annoying because it is asked so frequently, and only people who have never put any time into learning about evolution from anything besides a creationist site ever ask it. It is the first sign of a boring, frustrating debate that is unlikely to go anywhere. I dread questions like that, not because the challenge my knowledge or even my position, but because the ensuing discussion is bound to only challenge my patience, and little else.
I admire your ability to put into words how you feel.

That was well-stated.

Can't you give that little speech to a person that asks you about coming from monkeys? or is it easier to ridicule them?
I am not into those kinds of movies, but I know it doesn't take place in modern times.
QV please:
On December 10, 1882, two months before her sixteenth birthday, Laura accepted her first teaching position. She taught three terms in one-room schools when not attending herself in De Smet.

SOURCE
 
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I admire your ability to put into words how you feel.

That was well-stated.

Can't you give that little speech to a person that asks you about coming from monkeys? or is it easier to ridicule them?

QV please:


SOURCE

I don't ridicule people for asking those questions beyond the confines of my mind, unless they persist with them long after I have answered. And even then, I try to stay civil as long as I can. I don't tell people how annoying I find their questions unless they do a button mash on my patience.

But other people do not have as much patience as I do, or as much of a desire to be friendly, so you'll see others snap at people for asking those questions.
 
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But other people do not have as much patience as I do, or as much of a desire to be friendly, so you'll see others snap at people for asking those questions.

They're no different than consol, are they?
 
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They're no different than consol, are they?

Consol is pure, concentrated vitriol with a butt so massively hurt I imagine that he must stand every hour of the day. Having limited patience is not the same as not having any.
 
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Consol is pure, concentrated vitriol with a butt so massively hurt I imagine that he must stand every hour of the day. Having limited patience is not the same as not having any.

Wow.

Ummm, okay ... forget I asked.

I didn't mean to stir up a hornet's nest!

Thanks for talking with me.

I found your answers very open, honest, and refreshing.
 
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Wow.

Ummm, okay ... forget I asked.

I didn't mean to stir up a hornet's nest!

Thanks for talking with me.

I found your answers very open, honest, and refreshing.

I was making a bit of a joke, although, the best jokes are based in the truth. Come now, read my statement not in anger, but in the tone of "consol is a rude butt who insults everyone who isn't a rude butt :p "
 
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I'm somewhat familiar with the rhetoric.

I'd like to know why the question is ridicule-worthy.

Because the question has been asked and answered so many times in so many other places -- and the answer is blisteringly simple to begin with -- that anyone who uses it in a non-ironic way is so excruciatingly ignorant of the entire creation/evolution discussion so as to merit ridicule.

I mean, come on, AV -- you wear your ignorance like a badge and even you know better than to use it...
 
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Consol is a person who has the "honor" of being the most hardcore antitheist who bothers to keep coming back to this site periodically. He uses different names and accounts, but his brand of rudeness is so distinctive that we can always tell it is him, and then he gets banned within a week of his return. He is aggressively rude to theists and any atheist that bothers to challenge his behavior. Consol, I would guess, would be his original username, but I wasn't a member when he started, so I am not sure.

I encountered him once, and being that I don't view all religion as the root of all evil and stupidity in the world, we did not get along.
 
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An antitheist that comes on here every so often, yells at the Christians and then gets banned. He uses different aliases but you can always spot his rhetoric. He was here not too long ago actually. Like the boogeyman.....
 
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Consol is a person who has the "honor" of being the most hardcore antitheist who bothers to keep coming back to this site periodically. He uses different names and accounts, but his brand of rudeness is so distinctive that we can always tell it is him, and then he gets banned within a week of his return. He is aggressively rude to theists and any atheist that bothers to challenge his behavior. Consol, I would guess, would be his original username, but I wasn't a member when he started, so I am not sure.

I encountered him once, and being that I don't view all religion as the root of all evil and stupidity in the world, we did not get along.

That or he's the boogeyman of CF.
 
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Consol is a person who has the "honor" of being the most hardcore antitheist who bothers to keep coming back to this site periodically. He uses different names and accounts, but his brand of rudeness is so distinctive that we can always tell it is him, and then he gets banned within a week of his return. He is aggressively rude to theists and any atheist that bothers to challenge his behavior. Consol, I would guess, would be his original username, but I wasn't a member when he started, so I am not sure.

I encountered him once, and being that I don't view all religion as the root of all evil and stupidity in the world, we did not get along.

It is strange, he would keep returning to Christian Forums, when he has so much hostility towards Christians. I would think, he could find a better pastime.

An antitheist that comes on here every so often, yells at the Christians and then gets banned. He uses different aliases but you can always spot his rhetoric. He was here not too long ago actually. Like the boogeyman.....

Thank-you both, for filling me in.
 
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It is strange, he would keep returning to Christian Forums, when he has so much hostility towards Christians. I would think, he could find a better pastime.



Thank-you both, for filling me in.

Some people have no lives, it wouldn't shock me if he makes his angry presence known on a multitude of sites relating to discussion about religion.
 
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You would think that someone would do at least a modicum of research and know something about the topic before coming out swinging with this tired old canard and expecting victory.
maybe it's you that needs to do a "modicum" of research.
i would suggest molecular and integrated biology.
research is coming from these areas that's almost guaranteed to bury darwin.
 
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Because the question has been asked and answered so many times in so many other places -- and the answer is blisteringly simple to begin with -- that anyone who uses it in a non-ironic way is so excruciatingly ignorant of the entire creation/evolution discussion so as to merit ridicule.
As I pointed out, a teacher is supposed to put up with the same questions from a group of new students each year.

Telling them, "I answered that already the last five years in a row," doesn't cut it.
 
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As I pointed out, a teacher is supposed to put up with the same questions from a group of new students each year.

Telling them, "I answered that already the last five years in a row," doesn't cut it.

-_- sometimes I encounter the same questions on a weekly basis. In any case, not everyone has the patience of a teacher, and I know instances where even the most patient people will be driven over the edge.
 
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maybe it's you that needs to do a "modicum" of research.
i would suggest molecular and integrated biology.
research is coming from these areas that's almost guaranteed to bury darwin.

Then provide links to it.
 
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It is strange, he would keep returning to Christian Forums, when he has so much hostility towards Christians. I would think, he could find a better pastime.
Like what?

Telling them to their face?

He has a lot of anger to vent, and I suspect he's had a bad encounter with Christianity.

I've seen it happen in real life.

A & B living together.

B gets saved and is convicted that shacking-up is a sin; won't go to the places that they used to go to because it serves alcohol; begs A to go to church with her; wants to give 10% of their income to God; etc.

I've seen guys quite hostile to us (my wife & I) personally for "what our church did to their mates."

I don't know if that applies to consol, but it's usually the first thing I think of when I encounter someone unusually hostile to Christians.

Especially in a sarcastic way.
 
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... it wouldn't shock me if he makes his angry presence known on a multitude of sites relating to discussion about religion.
Me, either.
 
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