Hyper grace and the great lie

[ToBeBlessed]

Ware is this idea you've used in the bible

You can't have favor in GODS eyes unless your righteous that's been a major theme in the word from OT to NT

I gave you passages " I didn't just make up or say blanket statements at" I truly try to stick with scripture :

The passage says clearly through faith multiple times and righteousness multiple times so let's read what the are saying.

note: Now if faith produces righteousness after you've repented !

Mind you jesus blood hadn't been shed yet for David's sins to be COVARD and he wasn't obeying the LAW YET so no sacrifice for sin
!!! So how did his sins go away??
Repentance not sinning = righteousness

Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin
Romans‬ [bless and do not curse]4‬:[bless and do not curse]6-8‬ KJV

Jesus deemed us righteous.

You are trying so so hard to be.

I am deemed righteous by Christ already sweetie.

You keep trying and trying and trying and trying.


When you grow from a babe drinking milk to having meat. You will stop trying on your own and just let Christ lead the dance. You are dancing with yourself.

 

[lori milne]

Jesus deemed us righteous. You are trying so so hard to be. I am deemed righteous by Christ already sweetie. You keep trying and trying and trying and trying.

I'm meanly defending my believe its you who try's and fails

Ok answer the paradox
your theory gives us then

If only past sins are forgiven how then are they COVARD wile your sinning!?
Past is clear behind you / repented

 

[ToBeBlessed]

I'm meanly defending my believe its you who try's and fails

Ok answer the paradox
your theory gives us then

If only past sins are forgiven how then are they COVARD wile your sinning!?
Past is clear behind you / repented

I'm done with this.

Your not open. Your heart is hard and closed.

It is bitter and I'm not participating in that anymore with you.

Listen not with earthly ears. Write more to yourself. You like to speak. A lot.

 

[lori milne]

I'm done with this. Your not open. Your heart is hard and closed. It is bitter and I'm not participating in that anymore with you. Listen not with earthly ears. Write more to yourself. You like to speak. A lot.

You have free will
God bless

 

[lori milne]

I'm done with this. Your not open. Your heart is hard and closed. It is bitter and I'm not participating in that anymore with you. Listen not with earthly ears. Write more to yourself. You like to speak. A lot.

I'm sorry if I offended you
Please forgive me
And don't be mad
We are all family in Christ

I almost lost my family to this grace theory and have been trying to understand its meaning and we're not came from because I felt accountability and the fear of GOD wasn't in the picture which cause a big tare my life.
My journey for truth is just that still a journey looking and trying to find true understanding
I prey undone stumble you along the way

My true apology

 

[hmw]

Matt 16:11,12
How is it you do not understand that I did not speak to you concerning bread?—but to beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.” Then they understood that He did not tell them to beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and Sadducees.

This warning to beware of the leaven/doctrine of legalists still applies today.

Beware the leaven/doctrine of Lori.

A little leaven leavens the whole lump, Gal 5:9.

We must not mix works of the law, with grace.
Rom 11:6
And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.

 

[thepromiseofgrace]

mixing Grace and law defeats Grace completely, I agree. the new more glorious covenant is ours, Grace through the blood of Jesus and his free gift of his righteousness.

 

[lori milne]

mixing Grace and law defeats Grace completely, I agree. the new more glorious covenant is ours, Grace through the blood of Jesus and his free gift of his righteousness.

Righteousness is obtain after Faith I thought because isn't that what is says Directly in the bible?
Can you share the scriptures u have for what you've written ?

Mine are Romans 4:2-24
Righteousness is obtain through faith after the repentance of sin and grace is Upon David before works at this time. Then he decides/chooses freely to do works
Paul's letter explains clearly the order of grace works righteousness
But I know there has got to be some ware else
It speaks of this ?
I'd love to see what you have

 

[lori milne]

Matt 16:11,12 How is it you do not understand that I did not speak to you concerning bread?—but to beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.” Then they understood that He did not tell them to beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and Sadducees. This warning to beware of the leaven/doctrine of legalists still applies today. Beware the leaven/doctrine of Lori. A little leaven leavens the whole lump, Gal 5:9. We must not mix works of the law, with grace. Rom 11:6 And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.

You being a scoffer aren't you,? :/
Well in jesus name I say
The mixing of grace and law is clear what Paul was teaching
Works came because they were under Gods grace amen
They wanted to do it freely!
It didn't come first
IF YOU READ the whole letter not just the in between parts
He even brakes down the order of grace and law through faith and righteousness.
So we can see clearly how to obtain GODS Favor Which is what the Jews were complaining about to Paul.
Why did the Gentiles receive GODS favor with no works should we then not work?
Paul answers the question of there's and of mine as well
Amen
Romans 3-4 chapter

 

[BryanW92]

My pastor preached on "tetelestai" today. If you don't know the full implications of "It is finished", I urge you all do some study on the word. He answered all of the charges made by Lori and her Restored Church of God against the rest of the Christian church.

His sermon won't be on the web until Wednesday or Thursday, so check this website out for some information on tetelestai: https://carm.org/it-is-finished

(A note for those "Is it in the bible?" types: Yes, it is in the bible. It is in the original Greek.)

 

[lori milne]

My pastor preached on "tetelestai" today. If you don't know the full implications of "It is finished", I urge you all do some study on the word. He answered all of the charges made by Lori and her Restored Church of God against the rest of the Christian church. His sermon won't be on the web until Wednesday or Thursday, so check this website out for some information on tetelestai: https://carm.org/it-is-finished (A note for those "Is it in the bible?" types: Yes, it is in the bible. It is in the original Greek.)

My church is not RCG lol

 

[BryanW92]

My church is not RCG lol

then why are you copying and pasting paragraphs from documents on their web site? After you provided a link yesterday, I sat down and read several documents on their site and they are saying the exact same thing as you. In fact, a direct copy and paste from their site is where all those & codes come from in your posts.

 

[BryanW92]

My church is not RCG lol

OK. Forget about RCG. What about tetelestai?

 

[lori milne]

then why are you copying and pasting paragraphs from documents on their web site? After you provided a link yesterday, I sat down and read several documents on their site and they are saying the exact same thing as you. In fact, a direct copy and paste from their site is where all those & codes come from in your posts.

I'm a follower of Christ there based off Arminians I think?
I just got scripture information off of a web site
Sorry your assumptions are wrong

 

[BryanW92]

I'm a follower of Christ there based off Arminians I think?
I just got scripture information off of a web site
Sorry your assumptions are wrong

So, you are here to teach us what is right, and you have to copy documents from a web site for a church that is little more than a cult? Please, so do some study on your own and find people you can discuss it with instead of trying to demand that they listen to you and follow you.

I used to be Arminian and now I am Calvinist because I sought answers instead of demanding that everyone believe what I believed. As an Arminian, I had questions that their theology cannot answer. Reformed theology answered them all. Study, listen, and then discuss. It is the biblical way to learn.

 

[lori milne]

So, you are here to teach us what is right, and you have to copy documents from a web site for a church that is little more than a cult? Please, so do some study on your own and find people you can discuss it with instead of trying to demand that they listen to you and follow you. I used to be Arminian and now I am Calvinist because I sought answers instead of demanding that everyone believe what I believed. As an Arminian, I had questions that their theology cannot answer. Reformed theology answered them all. Study, listen, and then discuss. It is the biblical way to learn.

I hope my search for truth is not a stumbling block for you
I am trying to understand to truth based off The bible.
I'm finding what seems to be contradictions of what I'm taught in church / what you seem to be saying and what I read and I'm on a mission for understanding!

 

[BryanW92]

I hope my search for truth is not a stumbling block for you
I am trying to understand to truth based off The bible.
I'm finding what seems to be contradictions of what I'm taught in church / what you seem to be saying and what I read and I'm on a mission for understanding!

So far, your search for truth has been you telling us what is right and refusing to hear what we all say.

 

[BryanW92]

I hope my search for truth is not a stumbling block for you
I am trying to understand to truth based off The bible.
I'm finding what seems to be contradictions of what I'm taught in church / what you seem to be saying and what I read and I'm on a mission for understanding!

If you are seeking truth within Arminian theology, I invite you to read John Wesley's "A Plain Account of Christian Perfection". It may help.

 

[lori milne]

If you are seeking truth within Arminian theology, I invite you to read John Wesley's "A Plain Account of Christian Perfection". It may help.

No theology is leading me.

Just the words in scripture
And Jesus's teachings 😃
I've mention only to show the original theologian of this RCG church.
I will look at John weakey's book
I was born and raised as a Baptist and and my entire life in that church wondered this.
And thought of our sins are COVARD all past present and future according to my dad
Why do we condemn people who have abortionist are homosexuals
I'm neither as you must no do to my professing theology about the grace free to sin club card remarks lol
So why is it bad for them but ok for us to say all sins are forgiven ?

 

[thepromiseofgrace]

saved by Grace is scripture. who is this cult the others are on about?