Big Contradictions?

[Gracchus]

Hasn't science prematurely elevated a working hypothesis to a genuine theory here?

Because, of course, actual scientists don't know as much about their subjects and disciplines as you do?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Because, of course, actual scientists don't know as much about their subjects and disciplines as you do?

Science is a cold, heartless thing.

 

[Gracchus]

Science is a cold, heartless thing.

That is what I love about it!

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

That is what I love about it!

This is beginning to sound like a tune by Cat Stevens.

 

[SkyWriting]

There is a factor called "entropy" in physics, indicating that the whole universe of matter is running down, and ultimately will reduce itself to uniform chaos. This follows from the Second Law of Thermodynamics, which seems about as basic and unquestionable to modern scientific minds as any truth can be. At the same time that this is happening on the physical level of existence, something quite different seems to be happening on the biological level: structure and species are becoming more complex, more sophisticated, more organized, with higher degrees of performance and consciousness. This statement, above, was made by Sydney Harris, an evolutionist.

Sydney Harris was a columnist and cartoonist.
He had a cartoon view of evolution.
There is no support for his statements on complexity.

 

[SkyWriting]

That can't be right. Otherwise, basically everything violates the second law of thermodynamics. If the second law applied to open systems, crystals could not form.

Order and complexity have to do with functionality.
When crystals form, they reach a platform on their
way down to lower levels. As the temperature drops,
they loose additional potential.

Crystal formation is still a loss of ability to do work.

 

[SkyWriting]

I note that this is a big, fat, stinking, obvious, egregious lie. Oh, wait! It would be a lie, but can't be because Mr. Mike Adams is a Christian, and everyone knows that Christians never lie and always get all their information straight from God.

Christians all know better than that. You should ask them.

All people commit sins against God. The only difference is that
Christians understand this and seek forgiveness for their Sins
from the Creator. Recognizing sin is a good step toward
committing less of it. But without God, that is not possible.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

Christians all know better than that. You should ask them.

All people commit sins against God. The only difference is that
Christians understand this and seek forgiveness for their Sins
from the Creator. Recognizing sin is a good step toward
committing less of it. But without God, that is not possible.

I believe G, was being sarcastic, Sky.

Unfortunately, there are those Christians who screw it up for the rest of us -- when they tell a bunch of old pseudo science fibs and hearsay 'stead of d'truth. Know what I mean, growler?

 

[SkyWriting]

The topic was not Darwin's ideas or schoolbooks, but "The separation of evolution from origins". The theory of evolution has never been about the origin of life.

Are you suggesting that the rules are different? Darwin thought the rules would turn out to be compatible.


However, within the field of evolutionary biology,
the origin of life is of special interest
because it addresses the fundamental question of where we (and all living things) came from.

" I have met with no evidence that seems in the least trustworthy, in favour of the so-called Spontaneous generation. I believe that I have somewhere said (but cannot find the passage) that the principle of continuity renders it probable that the principle of life will hereafter be shown to be a part, or consequence of some general law; but this is only conjecture and not science. " - Darwin

http://www.astro.sunysb.edu/lattimer/AST248/lecture_13.pdf

 

[SkyWriting]

I believe G, was being sarcastic, Sky.

So was I, but in an informative way.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

So was I, but in an informative way.

Not in your 2nd stanza.

 

[SkyWriting]

Because, of course, actual scientists don't know as much about their subjects and disciplines as you do?

It's well known that specialists, by definition, wear blinders while they are working.

 

[SkyWriting]

Not in your 2nd stanza.

That was the information part.

Ignoring the sarcasm, is the sarcasm part.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

That was the information part.

It's all hearsay! and as usual : off-topic.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

It's well known that specialists, by definition, wear blinders while they are working.

Whereas pseudo scientists do it blindfolded:

 

[SkyWriting]

It's all hearsay! and as usual : off-topic.

Are you reading and responding in your sleep?

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

Are you reading and responding in your sleep?

I'll leave that up to you.

 

[Willtor]

Order and complexity have to do with functionality.
When crystals form, they reach a platform on their
way down to lower levels. As the temperature drops,
they loose additional potential.

Crystal formation is still a loss of ability to do work.

Loss of ability to do work or no, it's a local drop in entropy. It doesn't contradict the second law of thermodynamics because it's an open system and there is a corresponding increase in entropy in the crystal's surroundings.

 

[lesliedellow]

Are There Any Big Contradictions In The Evolutionary Theory?*

If there are, a creationist website won't be the place to find them.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

If there are, a creationist website won't be the place to find them.

Neither will an evolutionary site be the place to find them.

But we can certainly start with science, which is overturning all previously held beliefs of what is considered a "past" evolutionary stage, now recognized as juveniles, not as separate species.

http://www.ted.com/talks/jack_horner_shape_shifting_dinosaurs?language=en