http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAoV9e2PFdY Such a reasonable and intelligent human being, wouldn't you agree?
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Possibly he is - but if this video is anything to go by he knows well how to hide this fact.Such a reasonable and intelligent human being, wouldn't you agree?
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Davian said:I would have to see if he could preach something other than logical fallacies and anti-science rhetoric.
Thank you for posting this.Such a reasonable and intelligent human being, wouldn't you agree?
Good question. Did that training include evolutionary biology and astrophysics? My understanding is that he was a surgeon.Forgot, he's only a renowned doctor, whose been through the most rigorous, scientific training out there.
What does he know?
Hopefully, you are a lot funnier in person.We have Davian here to bestow us with knowledge lolol. You know, the guy from Christian Forums dot com.
Davian said:Good question. Did that training include evolutionary biology and astrophysics? My understanding is that he was a surgeon.
Biology is a huge field. It is my understanding that specialization is a necessity.Is this a serious question? Never met a doctor who wasn't trained in biology.
You don't know then?Did you think before typing this out?
Does it matter?Did that training include evolutionary biology and astrophysics?
Davian said:Biology is a huge field. It is my understanding that specialization is a necessity.
AV1611VET said:Does it matter? Was Charles Darwin an evolutionary biologist and astrophysicist? Was Fred Hoyle an evolutionary biologist and astrophysicist? If not, why should we respect the Darwin-Hoyle model?
Indeed. If he is appealing to the opinion of a brilliant surgeon for his expertise in evolutionary biology and astrophysics, it could be seen as an fallacious appeal to authority.Does it matter?
Yes, no.Was Charles Darwin an evolutionary biologist and astrophysicist?
No, yes.Was Fred Hoyle an evolutionary biologist and astrophysicist?
If what they presented to the scientific community was well-evidenced and has, for the most part, withstood the scrutiny of their peers as an accurate description of reality, I do not see why not.If not, why should we respect the Darwin-Hoyle model?
Davian said:Indeed. If he is appealing to the opinion of a brilliant surgeon for his expertise in evolutionary biology and astrophysics, it could be seen as an fallacious appeal to authority. Yes, no. If what they presented to the scientific community was well-evidenced and has, for the most part, withstood the scrutiny of their peers as an accurate description of reality, I do not see why not. To paraphrase Winston Churchill, science is the worst way to investigate reality, but all the others have been tried.
Society benefits from biomedical breakthroughs, does it not?Well, getting a Ph.D in evolutionary biology would certainly be a waste. How would you serve society with that?
Indeed, but he did specialize in surgery.I'm pretty sure with all his scientific training, he's more than well acquainted with the theory. It's saturated in most textbooks, especially when studying the biological sciences.
Davian said:Society benefits from biomedical breakthroughs, does it not? "To see the integral role of evolution in biomedical research, consider Nobel Prizes, a good indicator of the most important breakthroughs in biology. Reviewing the last 50 years of Nobel Prizes in medicine or physiology, I asked, "Is training in evolutionary biology necessary for a thorough understanding of the award-winning discoveries and work resulting from each breakthrough?" By my criteria, understanding of evolution is necessary in 47 of 50 cases. From vaccines, viral cancer genes, and nerve cell communication to drug trials, and genes controlling cholesterol and heart disease, evolutionary insights are crucial." Evolution is a Winner ? for Breakthroughs and Prizes | NCSE Indeed, but he did specialize in surgery. But, what you say about the textbooks is true. Nothing in Biology Makes Sense Except in the Light of Evolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Everything? Dr. Carson is not a brilliant surgeon?Everything you say is rubbish.

He was a geneticist, and in genetics is where some of the key evidence for the theory of evolution is found.Francis Collins isn't an evolutionary biologist, but he's touted around this forum all the time for his pro-evolutionary views.
I am unable to find that post.I seen you post the former several times. I already replied to it in another thread you posted on.
Progress has been made. Do you think you could get Dr. Carson to believe that 'some of it'?As for the latter, not really with replying to.
"Nothing makes sense, in biology, without evolution"!
Chant it some more and I might start to believe it. Actually, I do believe some of it, so maybe chanting isn't necessary .
Forgot, he's only a renowned doctor, whose been through the most rigorous, scientific training out there.
What does he know? We have Davian here to bestow us with knowledge lolol. You know, the guy from Christian Forums dot com.