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It's true a lot of the OT isn't covered much but NT should be covered heavily which deals more directly to the church. That doesn't mean the OT isn't God's Word as it helps establish much of the NT.

I just thought it was worth mentioning that not all biblical content is child friendly.
 
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I went to church ever since I can remember, and I can't remember a time when I was even a teenager that I can recall those "PG moments" -- except one.

C'mon AV, killing a woman on her wedding night if she's not a virgin is PG-13 at least?!
 
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I'm too much of a pessimist to consider anyone a saint, although there are people that come to mind when I consider certain values or qualities.
I take it a person becomes a Christian, before he becomes a saint, in your opinion?

If so, why did Paul write:

Romans 1:7a To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints:

1 Corinthians 1:2a Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints,

2 Corinthians 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, unto the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia:

Ephesians 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:

Philippians 1:1 Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, to all the saints in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:

Colossians 1:2a To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse:


Those epistles weren't meant for Christians?
 
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I take it a person becomes a Christian, before he becomes a saint, in your opinion?

If so, why did Paul write:

Romans 1:7a To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints:

1 Corinthians 1:2a Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints,

2 Corinthians 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, unto the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia:

Ephesians 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:

Philippians 1:1 Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, to all the saints in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:

Colossians 1:2a To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse:


Those epistles weren't meant for Christians?

There is literally a saint of evolution now AV. I honestly have 0 clue about different considerations of who can become a saint between various Christian denominations.
 
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Most people don't go to church to hear the whole Bible in one service.

If that's what you get out of the Bible, then I'd say something's wrong somewhere.

Just mentioning a part of the bible that isn't kid friendly AV, that isn't what I think of when the bible is mentioned in general.
 
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Do you know the main theme of SoS is not sex? True, sex is a part of marriage.

Ugh, yes, I know the main point, but you think a middle school aged kid is going to be mature enough not to get distracted by that? And any younger kids will be scarred for life by the violence.
 
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Never heard of her.

I have no idea who this is.
She is credited with having taken the Bible out of our schools.

And before anyone starts harping on, "I can bring a Bible to school; after all there's one in the library!" let me repeat:

She is credited with having taken the Bible out of our schools.

Just like Norma McCorvey is credited with getting abortion legalized in our land.

Even though it was scientists who did the work, these women led the charge.
 
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She is credited with having taken the Bible out of our schools.

And before anyone starts harping on, "I can bring a Bible to school; after all there's one in the library!" let me repeat:

She is credited with having taking the Bible out of our schools.

Just like Norma McCorvey is credited with getting abortion legalized in our land.

Even though it was scientists who did the work, these women led the charge.

You act as if teachers never mention the bible. My AP English instructor quoted the bible all the time, he even assigned us a book with so many religious references he stated that "if we hadn't read the bible, we'd never be able to evaluate this novel properly".
 
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She is credited with having taken the Bible out of our schools.

And before anyone starts harping on, "I can bring a Bible to school; after all there's one in the library!" let me repeat:

She is credited with having taken the Bible out of our schools.

Just like Norma McCorvey is credited with getting abortion legalized in our land.

Even though it was scientists who did the work, these women led the charge.
Those two women are saints, then.
 
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She is credited with having taken the Bible out of our schools.

And before anyone starts harping on, "I can bring a Bible to school; after all there's one in the library!" let me repeat:

She is credited with having taken the Bible out of our schools.

Just like Norma McCorvey is credited with getting abortion legalized in our land.

Even though it was scientists who did the work, these women led the charge.

You can bring a bible to school and read it when you have free time to do so AV. You just can't open it up in the middle of math class, instead of studying math, or science, or English, or history, etc. etc.

In fact, if a student opens a Sports Illustrated in those same classes, they will also be told to put it away, or a holy book, from another religion.

Last I checked, an adult is also not allowed to read the bible, sports illustrated, another holy book or be on the internet while they are supposed to be performing a job at work. During their break, which is their free time, they can certainly read the bible if they so choose.

Ample time for those who choose to, to open up the bible and read it.
 
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Ugh, yes, I know the main point, but you think a middle school aged kid is going to be mature enough not to get distracted by that? And any younger kids will be scarred for life by the violence.
Like the violence found in nature? A perverted mind will be perverted no matter if they read SoS or not. As a young kid I wouldn't know a lot what SoS is saying. That is until I was expose to sex already.
 
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There is literally a saint of evolution now AV.
:scratch: -- What?

Sarah, simple question:

Which does a person become first? saint or Christian?
 
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:scratch: -- What?

Sarah, simple question:

Which does a person become first? saint or Christian?

*shrugs* for all I know you don't have to be Christian to be named a saint. Again, I don't know the specifics of this topic.
 
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Those two women are saints, then.
Then maybe you and bhstme can work to get the Bible back in school, so It would generate more atheists, eh?
 
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