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The so called "oldest and best manuscripts"

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For the New Testament part, the 1971 2nd Edition Revised Standard Version (RSV) is the version, not the KJV. Also, there are more and better tools for it than for the KJV New Testament:
Believing give you the understanding, the ability to know the mysteries.
See:
God never promise his word in all the confounded languages of the world, he promised a pure language, with pure words and very pure word.
Hear:
God’s word is preserved, inspired, inerrant, infallible, pure words the can never be added too, taken away from or even diminished.

Answer this;
What is the only bible that could lay claim to that; now mind you the King James Bible is the only bible that Christians claim and witness as their testimony to be that word?
If you say it isn’t the King James Bible you are in a position to make an impossible argument for any real bible to be in existence, requiring you to use a narrative that denies logic and truth, with doublespeak and a cognitive dissonance that the Hegelian Dialectic was design to bring in a false word that I call versions; so think about it!
 
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For the New Testament part, the 1971 2nd Edition Revised Standard Version (RSV) is the version, not the KJV. Also, there are more and better tools for it than for the KJV New Testament:

The fact that you call God's word a version show you don't get it, sorry for you, you been told.
 
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The silliness never ends as you see in your debate; no matter what the truth is, it doesn't matter.
Fortunately most real people see the writing on the wall, and it is weighed in the balance and is found wanting.
What really sad like you said the poll show: *(BTW were do you get those Poll?) people just have no individual desire to search the scripture and see if these things be so, I guess nothing new under the sun.

Studying the scriptures can weary one, especially if your confidence is diminished in that the bible you have isn't inerrant, which I suppose is your motive to prove it's the real inerrant word of God.

BP's motive is to push the false KJVO myth, right or wrong.
 
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Brandplucked:
Baloney, that you believe in inerrancy! SHOW us this inerrant Bible you profess to believe in. Can you do that for us? Not a chance.

Easy! ANY VALID TRANSLATION!

Brandplucked:
Why don't you take the Bible Agnostic Test and get back to us on which readings of historical facts are "inerrant"? Go ahead, give it a try.

I notice you omit a glaring error in your KJV..."Easter" in Acts 12:4. Now, we've all seen the attempts by you and other KJVOs to justify this goof, but the simple fact is, EASTER DID NOT EXIST when Luke wrote the letter that'd become the Book of Acts; furthermore, had it existed then, no Orthodox Jew, nor Herod, who was trying to please the Orthodox Jewish leadership, woulda observed it. But all those Jews observed PASSOVER, upon which herod was waiting to end before handing Peter over to those Jews.

And the "Goliath" thingie? Most popular versions use "six cubits & a span" or "over nine feet tall". Most are in agreement about the size and weight of his equipment, which shows he was very much-larger than almost any other known man.

As for "the brother of" thingie, those words are ADDED to the KJV and several other versions. I DO agree the "Goliath" slain by Elhanan was not the same one David slew, but here's how the confusion came about: "Goliath" is a HEBREW name, meaning 'splendor', which any 9-foot-tall man would be. We don't know what Goliath's REAL name was! Same for "Lahmi". That's a Hebrew name meaning "my bread". We don't know HIS real name either! I believe both Goliath and lahmi were Hebrew nicknames for those Philistine giants; thus it was easy for come to call both of them "Goliath".

Brandplucked:
Scroll down just a bit and you will find the test. Let us know how you did on it.

Depends upon which manuscripts one consults.

Brandplucked:
The Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy = just more Evangelical mumbo jumbo signifying nothing

The KJVO myth...a false doctrine, man-made with NO Scriptural support, derived from a CULT OFFICIAL'S book by some dishonest, plaigarizing authors, phony as a Ford Corvette, signifying another of Satan's trix in his war against God's word.
 
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Remember that a few hundred years ago there was a Latin Vulgate only movement with a lot in common with the KJVOs of today, and they got William Tyndale burned at the stake.

Tyndale's last words, just before he was strangled with a rope, were,"Lord, open the King of England's eyes!" He died swiftly from the strangulation, then his body was burned to ashes.(Only Anabaptists and backslidden heretics were burnt alive.)

His prayer was answered, as soon after, Henry VIII commanded the "Great Bible" be made.

ANY "One-version-Onlyism" is wrong. It's an attempt to LIMIT GOD. He can present His own word to man any way HE jolly well chooses.
 
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Remember that a few hundred years ago there was a Latin Vulgate only movement with a lot in common with the KJVOs of today, and they got William Tyndale burned at the stake.

More correctly Tyndale got in trouble with the English monarch because while King Henry had broken away from Rome, there was by no means any sympathy for the Protestant movement on the Continent. Tyndale's Lutheran sympathies made him an enemy of the English Crown, and it was for that reason Tyndale was burned at the stake.

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BP's motive is to push the false KJVO myth, right or wrong.

Robycop3;
I am impress you followed that, I didn't think anyone but BP would even know what I was talking about.
Anyway; I disagree with you about his motive, I think clearly BP proved the point that the King James Bible is the inerrant word of God, however it is a mute point if you like he does that someone can be saved with a version.
Thus that was my argument Will Kinney *(BP), if you read his blog he unequivocally proves the King James Bible is the inspired, infallible, and inerrant word of God; however if you believe as he says that even with a bad version a person can find salvation, then his motive to be King James Only is diminished and I don't understand why he is King James Only.
 
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Robycop3;
I am impress you followed that, I didn't think anyone but BP would even know what I was talking about.
Anyway; I disagree with you about his motive, I think clearly BP proved the point that the King James Bible is the inerrant word of God,

Np, he DIDN'T. OTOH, I have shown the KJV has goofs & booboos, such as "Easter" in Acts 12:4, and "the love of money is THE root of ALL evil" in 1 Tim. 6:10.


however it is a mute point if you like he does that someone can be saved with a version.

Salvation is thru JESUS CHRIST, and not any Bible version.

Thus that was my argument Will Kinney *(BP), if you read his blog he unequivocally proves the King James Bible is the inspired, infallible, and inerrant word of God;

I have read his blog, and all he can prove is that the KJV is a valid English translation of God's word; however, it's NOT perfect, nor is it the ONLY valid English translation out there.

however if you believe as he says that even with a bad version a person can find salvation, then his motive to be King James Only is diminished and I don't understand why he is King James Only.

He's KJVO cuz he's in thrall to Satan's false KJVO doctrine. While I believe he's a Christian, he's definitely been fooled by Satan.

How do I KNOW the current KJVO myth is from Satan? By its origin from a CULT OFFICIAL'S book, and the DISHONESTY found among the various KJVO authors who copy both from that cult official's book & from each other, often without permission. Nothing from GOD is from a cultic source or laced with dishonesty. And also, it's totally-lacking in SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT, even in the KJV itself.

Besides that, KJVO is just outright FALSE.
 
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If salvation is by Jesus Christ, which one are you talking about?
Which bible is he in?
Willy Nilly Mary had a little Lamb, and whatever which one you choice doesn't matter they are all the good regardless of which one you choice, woopy!
 
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