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Why the international space station is a hoax from a engineer's pov

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Firstly, this is part of the evolution vs creation discussion...reason being that if something as fundamental as the space station is faked, what other "evidence" in evolution is also faked:

This is from a real engineer's point of view (watch the whole thing before commenting):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iHeInW8vFI
 

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Firstly, this is part of the evolution vs creation discussion...reason being that if something as fundamental as the space station is faked, what other "evidence" in evolution is also faked:

This is from a real engineer's point of view (watch the whole thing before commenting):

Giggle.

This 'real engineer' appears to be ignorant of basic laws of physics. External temps of the ISS are well known - 120 degrees celsius to minus -129 degrees celsius.

I got to talk to Chris Hadfield, a man who spent better than one year on the ISS across three missions, in 2013. I'm sure its a fake....

I've also seen the ISS, and the work being done on it, with my own eyes, through a friend's backyard telescope.

EDIT: Corrected spelling of Hadfield.
 
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Firstly, this is part of the evolution vs creation discussion...reason being that if something as fundamental as the space station is faked, what other "evidence" in evolution is also faked

That's the craziest tinfoil-hattery I've seen in a while.

I've also seen the ISS, and the work being done on it, with my own eyes, through a friend's backyard telescope.

Many people have.

How to Photograph the International Space Station using a Telescope - YouTube
 
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Firstly, this is part of the evolution vs creation discussion...reason being that if something as fundamental as the space station is faked, what other "evidence" in evolution is also faked:

This is from a real engineer's point of view (watch the whole thing before commenting):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iHeInW8vFI
this is ridiculous next you will tell me the earth is flat and the moon landing is fake.
 
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Firstly, this is part of the evolution vs creation discussion...reason being that if something as fundamental as the space station is faked, what other "evidence" in evolution is also faked:

"The space station doesn't exist, therefore evolution is false."

Wow. That is some serious smurf logic, you've got there.

By that line of reasoning, I could start a topic about the Kennedy assassination. "If they faked something like a presidential assassination, couldn't they fake evolution, too?"

Conspiracy nuts never cease to amaze me. How do you people function in everyday life?
 
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I dont have to go past 2 minutes and 40 seconds. He is either mistaken or outright lies. I firmly believe it is the later because to make this video he had to study the design to make the video.

Here is the design explained:

http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/167120main_Elements.pdf

There are compartments and airlocks.
 
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Did you watch the whole video? Structurally, the ISS is a joke.

You actually saw astronauts working on it?

Also, if Chris Hadfield says he has been on the ISS...then it surely must be true.

Giggle x 2

With the right equipment (200 mm reflector telescope with motorised tracking) you could just see the new modules being put into place, although the actual astronauts themselves were not discernible. Must have been 2009 or maybe 2010. Lots of fun.

Its not only Chis Hadfield who'd have to be lying about it. It would also have to be the 200 odd other people who've been on the ISS, from 15 different countries.

As well as the hundreds, possibly thousands, of engineers and technicians who've guided US, Russian, German, French and Japanese rocket flights to the station.

Seems like a lot of people need to by lying all the time to keep a hoax/conspiracy going for no discernible purpose. Seriously, what's the motivation? Where's the benefit or gain for all this effort?


On the physical stuff, the engineering of the ISS is pretty well known and no mystery to anyone that's had any interest in spaces stuff in the last two decades.

A couple of years ago, I even got to work for a little while with some of the EADS/Airbus engineers who had worked on the ISS transfer vehicles (although they'd both since switched to marketing, ewww). It's always interesting to hear the thinking of engineers about problem solving, and how the demands of space differ from the demands of traditional aircraft engineering. Getting anything into orbit is crazy stressful, both for humans and the spacecraft themselves.
 
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The fellow is supposed to be an engineer, but all I hear are words. I hear no numbers, I see no stress diagrams other than some of a bridge built in the Earth's gravitational field. (Which he does not explain!)

I would not go so far as to call him a liar for claiming to be an engineer, but I would question the credibility of any school of engineering that granted him a degree.

:doh:
 
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Firstly, this is part of the evolution vs creation discussion...reason being that if something as fundamental as the space station is faked, what other "evidence" in evolution is also faked:

Sorry Morse - just look up in the sky with a telescope, or even a decent pair of binoculars, and you can see it. :)

There's a page on the NASA website telling you when it will be visible in the sky near you.
 
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The fellow is supposed to be an engineer, but all I hear are words. I hear no numbers, I see no stress diagrams other than some of a bridge built in the Earth's gravitational field. (Which he does not explain!)

I would not go so far as to call him a liar for claiming to be an engineer, but I would question the credibility of any school of engineering that granted him a degree.

:doh:

He may have attended a fine school, but even a good school can't impact someone who likely has some psychological issues.
 
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Firstly, this is part of the evolution vs creation discussion...reason being that if something as fundamental as the space station is faked, what other "evidence" in evolution is also faked:

This is from a real engineer's point of view (watch the whole thing before commenting):

Did you seriously just claim that the ISS is "fake"?

If you seriously believe that the ISS is "fake", then I have to conclude that you are insane. For real.
 
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Space station, moon landing, round earth, and the diversity of life arising from gradual natural processes are all totally hoaxes.

Supernatural being making the universe in one week, complete with talking snakes and donkeys, hippies coming back from the dead, a world-wide total flood, walking on water, and transforming water to wine... totally legit.
 
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