Eyewitness accounts of the end of the World - boring?

[Melethiel]

Some people are able to read more than others. I think we are all ok with that. Don't feel too bad.

in Christ,

Bob

Lol. As my husband can attest, I read at a pace of 3-4 large novels a week. I just find this faux KJV writing ridiculous, pretentious, and yes, utterly boring.

 

[BobRyan]

I tried to give your "I find them boring" option - fair representation in the list of choices. Feel free to vote for it - the rest of us can read that OP easily I suspect. Even if it is not "large novel"

Oh and BTW - the few cases where you find quotes from the KJV in the OP -- are the places where you find KJV english in the OP - (hint for the reader: quotes are using KJV english because it is a quote of the KJV complete with references for that quote. )

Probably don't find much of that in the large novels -- but other than that... it makes sense.

 

[Nik0s]

I would rather read Dianetics over Ellen White, Im sorry but the woman doesn't grip me.

 

[BobRyan]

I would rather read Dianetics .

Feel free to do it.

The point of the OP is simply that the text you find there is far from boring (as exciting as Dianetics may be to you personally).

 

[Mama Kidogo]

John is an eyewitness to it in the book of Revelatino chapter 19.

Moses is an eyewitness to the creation event in Genesis 1-2:3.

that is the benefit of serving a God that is not limited by time.

He is able to show his prophets specific events - even if they are not in the same time frame as the one being shown the event.

And the result is some very 'not boring' material to read.

in Christ,

Bob

So you think John saw the end of the world? Or do you think he was shown a vision? He was given a preview much of which was concerning the destruction of Jerusalem by the Roman Empire. Now how it became twisted into an event that has not yet happened took ignoring who it was addressed to.(The Churches in the area)
John wasn't an eye witness. He was shown a preview.

 

[BobRyan]

So you think John saw the end of the world? Or do you think he was shown a vision?

Not either -- or.

In vision he was taken to the time of the 2nd coming and millennium and the lake of Fire event that follows in Rev 19-21.

in fact he was also witness to the 7 last plagues as we see in Rev 16.

And he was writing long after Jerusalem was destroyed.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[MoreCoffee]

Russia isn't the end of the world, unless you're Sarah Palin, and we're not neighbors.

No sir, I stand proud on the prairie, near where the mighty, muddy Missouri River is joined by the Platte River. And I don't own a gun because artist/musicians know how to survive without them!

I live under the shade of a red-gum-tree in a sunny land where winters are mild and summers are hot, a wide brown land, a sunburnt land, a land without earthly borders.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Lol. As my husband can attest, I read at a pace of 3-4 large novels a week. I just find this faux KJV writing ridiculous, pretentious, and yes, utterly boring.

If it were written in 1611 AD the language would be acceptable but it was written late in the 19th century or early in the 20th so it has no excuse and only the very weak reason that it "sounds biblical" to KJV reading people.

 

[BobRyan]

If it were written in 1611 AD the language would be acceptable but it was written late in the 19th century or early in the 20th so it has no excuse and only the very weak reason that it "sounds biblical" to KJV reading people.

Are you complaining that when someone quotes the KJV (complete with the reference)- it sounds like the KJV is being quoted - still??

Is there a point?

For example here is the OP quote without a few of the explicit KJV quotes stated in the text

The people of God&#8212;some in prison cells, some hidden in solitary retreats in the forests and the mountains&#8212;still plead for divine protection, while in every quarter companies of armed men, urged on by hosts of evil angels, are preparing for the work of death. It is now, in the hour of utmost extremity, that the God of Israel will interpose for the deliverance of His chosen. <removed quote for those fearful of the KJV text in Isaiah 30>" Isaiah 30:29, 30.


With shouts of triumph, jeering, and imprecation, throngs of evil men are about to rush upon their prey, when, lo, a dense blackness, deeper than the darkness of the night, falls upon the earth. Then a rainbow, shining with the glory from the throne of God, spans the heavens and seems to encircle each praying company. The angry multitudes are suddenly arrested. Their mocking cries die away. The objects of their murderous rage are forgotten. With fearful forebodings they gaze upon the symbol of God's covenant and long to be shielded from its overpowering brightness.
By the people of God a voice, clear and melodious, is heard, saying, "Look up," and lifting their eyes to the heavens, they behold the bow of promise. The black, angry clouds that covered the firmament are parted, and like Stephen they look up steadfastly into heaven and see the glory of God and the Son of man seated upon His throne. In His divine form they discern the marks of His humiliation; and from His lips they hear the request presented before His Father and the holy angels: <removed quote for those fearful of KJV language in John 17> John 17:24. Again a voice, musical and triumphant, is heard, saying: "They come! they come! holy, harmless, and undefiled. They have kept the word of My patience; they shall walk among the angels;" and the pale, quivering lips of those who have held fast their faith utter a shout of victory.


It is at midnight that God manifests His power for the deliverance of His people. The sun appears, shining in its strength. Signs and wonders follow in quick succession. The wicked look with terror and amazement upon the scene, while the righteous behold with solemn joy the tokens of their deliverance. Everything in nature seems turned out of its course. The streams cease to flow. Dark, heavy clouds come up and clash against each other. In the midst of the angry heavens is one clear space of indescribable glory, whence comes the voice of God like the sound of many waters, saying: "It is done." Revelation 16:17.


That voice shakes the heavens and the earth. There is a mighty earthquake, "such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great." Verses 17, 18. The firmament appears to open and shut. The glory from the throne of God seems flashing through. The mountains shake like a reed in the wind, and ragged rocks are scattered on every side. There is a roar as of a coming tempest. The sea is lashed into fury. There is heard the shriek of a hurricane like the voice of demons upon a mission of destruction. The whole earth heaves and swells like the waves of the sea. Its surface is breaking up. Its very foundations seem to be giving way. Mountain chains are sinking.


Inhabited islands disappear. The seaports that have become like Sodom for wickedness are swallowed up by the angry waters. Babylon the great has come in remembrance before God, "to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of His wrath." Great hailstones, every one "about the weight of a talent," are doing their work of destruction. Verses 19, 21. The proudest cities of the earth are laid low. The lordly palaces, upon which the world's great men have lavished their wealth in order to glorify themselves, are crumbling to ruin before their eyes. Prison walls are rent asunder, and God's people, who have been held in bondage for their faith, are set free.


Graves are opened, and "many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth. . . awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." Daniel 12:2. All who have died in the faith of the third angel's message come forth from the tomb glorified, to hear God's covenant of peace with those who have kept His law. "They also which pierced Him" (Revelation 1:7), those that mocked and derided Christ's dying agonies, and the most violent opposers of His truth and His people, are raised to behold Him in His glory and to see the honor placed upon the loyal and obedient.



Thick clouds still cover the sky; yet the sun now and then breaks through, appearing like the avenging eye of Jehovah. Fierce lightnings leap from the heavens, enveloping the earth in a sheet of flame. Above the terrific roar of thunder, voices, mysterious and awful, declare the doom of the wicked. The words spoken are not comprehended by all; but they are distinctly understood by the false teachers. Those who a little before were so reckless, so boastful and defiant, so exultant in their cruelty to God's commandment-keeping people, are now overwhelmed with consternation and shuddering in fear. Their wails are heard above the sound of the elements. Demons acknowledge the deity of Christ and tremble before His power, while men are supplicating for mercy and groveling in abject terror.

Is it your claim that this is a level of KJV language left in the text that no writer in the 1800's could possibly employ??

Really??

That is it?



in Christ,

Bob

 

[MoreCoffee]

BobRyan, I occasionally quote from the KJV but the text that I write myself is not usually written in Jacobean English unless I deliberately choose to do so for some purpose - very likely a humorous one. Ellen White writes her own words in KJV-ish vocabulary and syntax quite frequently, that is the object of the remarks to which you replied. I am sorry if you didn't understand that.

 

[Targaryen]

I tried reading the excerpt and couldn't finish. Good lord, the writing is so pretentious and yet it's so horribly written (can't stand faux-KJV). It's like reading Twilight.

Best description ever

 

[squint]

Christian success formula:

Come up with an angle that threatens believers eternal destiny. (Sat. Sabb. in this case)
Then vilify all the other errant sinners, showing and proving how they sin and violated that angle from every angle conceivable.
Then give them a way out of the (contrived) dilemma that includes strict alliance and allegiance with the spiritual guides.

Then milk it for all it's worth.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

More like the great fantasy by the not so great drama queen

I have a song for that

Fidel's Fantasy - War - YouTube


.

 

[BobRyan]

BobRyan, I occasionally quote from the KJV but the text that I write myself is not usually written in Jacobean English unless I deliberately choose to do so for some purpose - very likely a humorous one. Ellen White writes her own words in KJV-ish vocabulary .

And your example of A.D. 1611 KJV language being written in the actual text apart from what you consider offensive KJV quotes of actual scripture??

Where is it??

I gave you the perfect opportunity to find it.

Or are you still on the colors thing?

(first it was 'colors in a post online' then -- "boring accounts" of the end of the world - that proved not to be all that boring after all - and then "the book is too big" and now the illusive "1611 A.D. KJV" language outside of the KJV quotes themselves - that has all of MC's attention)

One wonders what he will think up next.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

This is another thread where it appears that the OP and page 1 assertions are holding true.

 

[Mama Kidogo]

This is another thread where it appears that the OP and page 1 assertions are holding true.

How humble of you to say so.

 

[BobRyan]

Experiment - nothing beats it.

 

[GratiaCorpusChristi]

So what I'm getting from this is.... if a person found it boring or poorly written, they must not have read it. You can't possibly believe a person can genuinely find these shoddy, second-hand "eyewitness" accounts to be so dreadfully dull it makes our eyes hurt.

Wake up. It's boring. We find it really dull.

 

[GratiaCorpusChristi]

Or hilarious. I can also see how someone could find this stuff hilarious.

 

[BobRyan]

Some have argued that they find eyewitness accounts of the end of the World - the Second Coming - to be boring.

Do you agree?

What's remarkable is how boring the works of Mohammed, Joseph Smith, and Ellen White are .

So then - some truly engaging quotes followed as examples of what is not boring at all.

And a link to an eyewitness account of the saints entering the heavenly city at the 2nd coming of Christ.

So what I'm getting from this is.... if a person found it boring or poorly written, they must not have read it.

As a number on this thread have in fact admitted - they simply have not read the material.

This is not the part that is rocket science for the objective unbiased readers.

I have no problem admitting to that fact.

In the mean time the short-sighted solution "If I pretend not to see anything no other reader can see it either" is sort of like the child that places their hands over their own eyes and imagines that nobody else can see them once they do that.

I would prefer serious responses -- no matter if you agree with the theology in the text or not.

in Christ,

Bob