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How were you taught Evolution?

How were you taught evolution?

  • With an explicit denial of God's involvement

  • With an explicit affirmation of God's involvement

  • Without either an affirmation or denial of God's involvement


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No, I didn't ask in what were they combined, I asked how they were combined.

(The patience one must have in discussing creationism with atheistic creationists)

I am not an atheistic creationist, so I will leave this one for the atheistic creationists to answer.

Humanity did not exist. Now humanity exists. Where's your evidence for the impetus for humanity's existence from a single life form of long long ago?

Fish did not exist. Now fish exists. The evidence is the same as for humans. DNA, fossils, biochemistry, biogeography, embryology. Your denial is amusing.
 
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DNA, fossils, biochemistry, embryology, biogeography, these are just a few of the fields that provide mountains of evidence. Your denial is boring.

Blah blah blah, and blah blah blah. You're only typing words, no evidence is forthcoming for the faith-based view that humanity was created from a single life form of long long ago solely, totally, completely, only by naturalistic mechanisms.

There isn't any.
 
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The impossibility of solely naturalistic processes to create the complex and varied life we observe today from a single life form of long long ago.

It is not impossible because it happened.

Nothing close to such a naturalistic creative mechanism has been observed.

It will never be observed in the way you want because it happens in a time scale much longer than human life. But you know what could be observed in a human life time and never was? A deity creating life.
 
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I am not an atheistic creationist, so I will leave this one for the atheistic creationists to answer.

You're a theistic creationist?

Fish did not exist. Now fish exists. The evidence is the same as for humans. DNA, fossils, biochemistry, biogeography, embryology. Your denial is amusing.

More blah blah blah blah, and blah blah blah blah. Typing empty claims isn't evidence.
 
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Blah blah blah, and blah blah blah. You're only typing words, no evidence is forthcoming for the faith-based view that humanity was created from a single life form of long long ago solely, totally, completely, only by naturalistic mechanisms.

There isn't any.

Since you don't like words and explanations, I will try with a picture.

denial.jpg
 
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It is not impossible because it happened.

Prove it.

It will never be observed in the way you want because it happens in a time scale much longer than human life. But you know what could be observed in a human life time and never was? A deity creating life.

Ah...your faith-based view. Sorry, I'm not converting to your Godless religion.
 
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Typing empty claims isn't evidence.

Ok, I will play your game, I listed several fields, here are some again:

Genetics
Palaeontology
Biogeography

I can list several lines of evidence from each of these fields that support that evolution happened. Which one do you prefer?
 
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My teacher said that Christians often do not believe in it but others do. She explained that in science there is a belief in it. She let us decide for ourselves, as long as we learned about it.
 
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Ok, I will play your game, I listed several fields, here are some again:

Genetics
Palaeontology
Biogeography

I can list several lines of evidence from each of these fields that support that evolution happened. Which one do you prefer?

I prefer the evidence which shows that solely naturalistic mechanisms created humanity from a single life form of long long ago.

I await.
 
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My teacher said that Christians often do not believe in it but others do. She explained that in science there is a belief in it. She let us decide for ourselves, as long as we learned about it.

I'm surprised your teacher mentioned the religious aspect of Darwinist creationism.
 
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The evidence for solely naturalistic processes producing humanity from a single life form of long long ago.....please?



Ditto.

Well, we're here, aren't we? So SOMETHING is sufficient to explain our being here.

No fair ruling solely naturalistic processes out as a complete explanation without having a reason for doing so.

Consider that everything God does in the same way over and over we call the laws of science; what God does occasionally for special reasons we call a miracle; its all God anyway.

Even IF God used solely naturalistic means to bring our species about.
 
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Even IF God used solely naturalistic means to bring our species about.

Now that is a different question, and I admit is a possibility (I am open-minded like that). But saying that there is no evidence supporting a natural process that resulted in humans (i.e. evolution) is pure and simple denial.

denial.jpg
 
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Well, we're here, aren't we? So SOMETHING is sufficient to explain our being here.

This is true.

No fair ruling solely naturalistic processes out as a complete explanation without having a reason for doing so.

The reasons vary from person to person. First, for me, is the scripture in my signature. A close second is the impossibility for solely naturalistic mechanisms to produce the infinitely complex and varied life we observe today by a series of random, meaningless, mindless, purposeless (other than procreation) and directionless mechanisms which is the basis for Darwinist creationism.

Consider that everything God does in the same way over and over we call the laws of science; what God does occasionally for special reasons we call a miracle; its all God anyway.

Even IF God used solely naturalistic means to bring our species about.

If God used solely naturalistic means, then its not solely naturalistic means. It's naturalistic means with God which eliminates the 'solely'.
 
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What makes it impossible then? You can't just say it's impossible without going to details.

Clearly, his personal fundamentalist belief structure REQUIRES it to be impossible, to protect his belief.

Good luck on getting those details.
 
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