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Important Facts about Evolution

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bhsmte said:
For God to judge? Boy, you could have fooled me. Seems like quite a few on this board, that claim to know exactly what God is all about and how he judges as well.

Seems the same for people who believe chimpanzees are your ancestor; me included.
 
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Seems the same for people who believe chimpanzees are your ancestor; me included.

Well, objective evidence doesn't go away just because some people don't like it.

People can ignore it, deride it, but in the end, it is there.
 
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bhsmte said:
Sounds like those religions are better already.

You should always choose your religion based on the least amount of effort, pain and self pleasure.
Then you will know your safe.
 
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bhsmte said:
Well, objective evidence doesn't go away just because some people don't like it. People can ignore it, deride it, but in the end, it is there.
Thank you. That's how I feel about the bible that tells me how God judges and not you.
 
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You should always choose your religion based on the least amount of effort, pain and self pleasure.
Then you will know your safe.

I would choose a religion (if I believed in a God) based on what encouraged the most moral a just behavior.

The murderer or rapist that finds Jesus in prison and is saved, while the non-believer or Hindu who lived a life helping others being doomed, is not what I would call a moral philosophy.

Of course, Sam Harris explains it here very well, in regards to the moral bankruptcy involved in this sort of belief.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HthQ6a7FZeA
 
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That's right

Not understanding this, you stated belief was being offered right now, I state that if it was I wouldn't be an atheist, then you go on to affirm my statement. Are you trying to suggest I am not an atheist?
 
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bhsmte said:
Well, objective evidence doesn't go away just because some people don't like it. People can ignore it, deride it, but in the end, it is there.

Straight from the horses mouth. You don't have to like it that God will judge you when you die; People can ignore him, deride him, but in the end, He lives.
 
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MuchWiser said:
Are you trying to tell us you chose your religion for yourself.

I choose a religion based on theology that agrees with scripture. I am a Christian because of the Author and Finisher of my Faith, Jesus Christ The Lord.
 
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Straight from the horses mouth. You don't have to like it that God will judge you when you die; People can ignore him, deride him, but in the end, He lives.

I can't speak for others, but I find it difficult to like or dislike something I don't believe exists. That would require manufactured thoughts and I don't pretend well.
 
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bhsmte said:
I would choose a religion (if I believed in a God) based on what encouraged the most moral a just behavior. The murderer or rapist that finds Jesus in prison and is saved, while the non-believer or Hindu who lived a life helping others being doomed, is not what I would call a moral philosophy. Of course, Sam Harris explains it here very well, in regards to the moral bankruptcy involved in this sort of belief. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HthQ6a7FZeA

Lucifer one day decided he also should be equal with God, and he's had followers ever since. How do you measure morale when your an atheist?
 
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That's for God to judge.
There are verses in Revelation which speak of the ungodly being cast into the lake of fire and consumed; the second death; eternal destruction.
There are also verses which speak about eternal damnation for those who reject the Lord.

As darkness is the absence of light and cold is the absence of heat, evil is the absence of God. Hell is the complete absence of the Lord; the one place in existence where God does not dwell. It was created for the devil and his fallen angels. Those who rebel against God are no different from the angels who rebelled against God. They separate themselves from God during their life and that separation continues after their death. It is they who make the decision where they will spend eternity by their acceptance or rejection of the Lord.

Don't blame God if you end up in Hell. You will have earned it.
Rather angry aren't we.

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PsychoSarah said:
Not understanding this, you stated belief was being offered right now, I state that if it was I wouldn't be an atheist, then you go on to affirm my statement. Are you trying to suggest I am not an atheist?

Are you suggesting your an atheist? If so, then why would you believe?
 
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Lucifer one day decided he also should be equal with God, and he's had followers ever since. How do you measure morale when your an atheist?

Same way a lot of people do:

-caring for your family
-not doing anything to harm others
-treating others as you would want to be treated

Easy, to the point and works quite well.

Lucifer?

If I believed this figure existed, your statement may have some impact.
 
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bhsmte said:
I can't speak for others, but I find it difficult to like or dislike something I don't believe exists. That would require manufactured thoughts and I don't pretend well.

Your doing OK, pretending. Why don't you share your childhood growing up in the church.
 
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bhsmte said:
Same way a lot of people do: -caring for your family -not doing anything to harm others -treating others as you would want to be treated Easy, to the point and works quite well. Lucifer? If I believed this figure existed, your statement may have some impact.

Because nature shows us this? Are you sure your ancestors were chimpanzees? I mean eating your young, canibilism, killing, stealing, etc; is what would be considered natural.

Once again what is it you measure your morale against.
 
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