Important Facts about Evolution

[toolmanjantzi]

If it was, I wouldn't be an atheist

That's right

 

[MuchWiser]

Fallen man chooses his eternal destination. If that was not so, then why do you judge God?

One problem, before you can do that you must first believe there is a god there to judge, most people have not been frightened into believing that, you were told you were ill (fallen) so you would accept the cure.

 

[toolmanjantzi]

One problem, before you can do that you must first believe there is a god there to judge, most people have not been frightened into believing that, you were told you were ill (fallen) so you would accept the cure.

What cure?

 

[MuchWiser]

What cure?

So it is true, ignorance is bliss.

 

[biggles53]

So it is true, ignorance is bliss.

And this one appears to be more blissful than most.....

 

[toolmanjantzi]

So it is true, ignorance is bliss.

Jesus came for the sick not the righteous.

 

[MuchWiser]

Jesus came for the sick not the righteous.

I have often wondered how people know what Jesus did or said? who documented what Jesus said?
Perhaps I should start another thread to ask that question?

 

[KWCrazy]

Yahweh doesn't send people to gas chambers. He sends them to be set on fire for a trillion years. That makes Hitler like Ghandi in comparison. Besides, if your religion is true, I was saved when I was 12, so I won't be set on fire. That said, I probably won't be happy in heaven knowing that people are being ignited forever when it's a completely unnecessary punishment. And if Yahweh covers up that knowledge from me, well then he's a deceptive liar.

You believe this stupidity and you're an educator? That explains the problems with our education system.

I have no use for blaspheme, so I will NOT be seeing any more of your posts. Goodbye.

 

[DogmaHunter]

You believe this stupidity and you're an educator? That explains the problems with our education system.

I have no use for blaspheme, so I will NOT be seeing any more of your posts. Goodbye.

That IS the christian doctrine, is it not?

If not, please tell me what will happen to someone who dies an atheist, according to your theology.

And be honest about it.

 

[BL2KTN]

Fallen man chooses his eternal destination. If that was not so, then why do you judge God?

And man fell by having an ancient dirt-man be tricked by his rib-wife and a talking snake into eating a magic fruit. If this was from anything other than the bible and you heard someone talking this way, you would conclude it was insane.

Even if we say that humanity is indeed burdened with a magical darkness in our invisible, undetectable spirit/soul/ghosts due to a magic fruit, how many billions throughout the past two-thousand years never heard anything about this invisible problem? The Chinese, the Japanese, the Native Americans, the aboriginal Australians... entire continents never heard of this invisible darkness, nor how to get rid of it, for centuries and centuries and centuries. It would seem that any god who came up with this system for the world is completely and utterly inept.

You believe this stupidity and you're an educator? That explains the problems with our education system.

I have no use for blaspheme, so I will NOT be seeing any more of your posts. Goodbye.

I never said hello to you in the first place. Try giving reasons before criticizing a person and their position next time and maybe you'll be greeted. But thankfully, it seems you're going to self-censor yourself so that this rudeness won't occur again.

 

[toolmanjantzi]

I have often wondered how people know what Jesus did or said? who documented what Jesus said? Perhaps I should start another thread to ask that question?

Perhaps.

 

[loveiseverywhere]

I can't disagree with you.

On the other hand, sometimes it is the pure entertainment value that keeps people engaging with him and at times, he does provide some entertainment.

Very true!

 

[toolmanjantzi]

That IS the christian doctrine, is it not? If not, please tell me what will happen to someone who dies an atheist, according to your theology. And be honest about it.

What would happen if your child or if you had a child come to me a total stranger and offered me a gift; and in return I killed him; not quickly; but slowly and I took every measure to make his/her pain enjoyable to me? Would your demeanour be that of a Jew who has been told the Holocoust was a lie, or that of a African American who was told slavery never existed? If it was my child, there would be no end to the pain I would bring you. But fortunately for you God commands me to forgive you, because "VENGEANCE IS MINE" says The Lord. The bible says one day you will die, and this is true. And you will bow on bended knee before the judge, wether you believe in Him or not. My question for you is how does your concept of how God should act have any weight? God is God and there is nothing you can say that will change it. If I kill someone the law requires me to be judged, and a punishment is handed down, sound familiar? The punishment for refusing to believe in God therefore repenting of your sin is death. Has anyone not died? Seems to me God is true to his word. Only thing is by not choosing God your judgement is eternal life without God and that is Laid out for you in scripture, that you can be saved and go to all the places who don't know what I have told you.

 

[loveiseverywhere]

What is "the light" you, and others, are trying to make him see?

"The Light" you're asking about are the scientific facts about evolution which are supported by evidence rather than personal beliefs.

 

[KWCrazy]

That IS the christian doctrine, is it not?

If not, please tell me what will happen to someone who dies an atheist, according to your theology.

And be honest about it.

That's for God to judge.
There are verses in Revelation which speak of the ungodly being cast into the lake of fire and consumed; the second death; eternal destruction.
There are also verses which speak about eternal damnation for those who reject the Lord.

As darkness is the absence of light and cold is the absence of heat, evil is the absence of God. Hell is the complete absence of the Lord; the one place in existence where God does not dwell. It was created for the devil and his fallen angels. Those who rebel against God are no different from the angels who rebelled against God. They separate themselves from God during their life and that separation continues after their death. It is they who make the decision where they will spend eternity by their acceptance or rejection of the Lord.

Don't blame God if you end up in Hell. You will have earned it.

 

[toolmanjantzi]

"The Light" you're asking about are the scientific facts about evolution which are supported by evidence rather than personal beliefs.

Lucy is made up of more then one relative. True/False?

 

[Split Rock]

Lucy is made up of more then one relative. True/False?

Lucy represents a species, or at least an entire population.

 

[Split Rock]

Don't blame God if you end up in Hell. You will have earned it.

Don't blame Allah if you end up in Hell. You have earned it.

Don't blame Shiva if you end up in Hell. You have earned it.

Don't blame Buddha if you end up in Hell. You have earned it.

 

[bhsmte]

That's for God to judge.
There are verses in Revelation which speak of the ungodly being cast into the lake of fire and consumed; the second death; eternal destruction.
There are also verses which speak about eternal damnation for those who reject the Lord.

As darkness is the absence of light and cold is the absence of heat, evil is the absence of God. Hell is the complete absence of the Lord; the one place in existence where God does not dwell. It was created for the devil and his fallen angels. Those who rebel against God are no different from the angels who rebelled against God. They separate themselves from God during their life and that separation continues after their death. It is they who make the decision where they will spend eternity by their acceptance or rejection of the Lord.

Don't blame God if you end up in Hell. You will have earned it.

For God to judge?

Boy, you could have fooled me. Seems like quite a few on this board, that claim to know exactly what God is all about and how he judges as well.

 

[toolmanjantzi]

Don't blame Allah if you end up in Hell. You have earned it. Don't blame Shiva if you end up in Hell. You have earned it. Don't blame Buddha if you end up in Hell. You have earned it.

Non of those religions have an eternal punishment. So that is incorrect.