I am not either, but I assure you that they would disagree with you and would love to discuss it with you for hours in your home. Both sects love to do that. I have had both come up to my door. Not at the same time, but that could be a real party!
No doubt.
The famous Daniel prophesy about the church being destroyed and rebuilt after a specific number of days or years. There are many different interpretations of the dates. For example my brother is a Seventh Day Adventist and they put a relatively early date to that event. Many of them think we are already in the End Times. Other sects have other interpretations of the date. There is no one set date for that event.
Here are some facts:
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When was Daniel written? The Dead Sea Scrolls provide the first proof that the book of Daniel existed before 165 BC, since Daniel was found among the manuscripts at Qumran. This early date is the result of radiocarbon dating of the Dead Sea manuscripts of Daniel. They imply that earlier copies of the book with older dates already existed. This is important because Daniel predicted the fall of Babylon (605-539 B.C.), Media-Persia (539-331 B.C.), Greece (331-146 B.C.) and then Rome (331-146 B.C.). Daniel also predicts the time of Jesus death (33 A.D.). The Dead Sea Scrolls prove that at least one prophecy, the prophecy about Jesus existence on earth to be real.
The Septuagint. There is another proof that the book of Daniel existed before Jesus was alive on this earth. This proof involves the Septuagint, which is also known as the LXX. The LXX is a Greek translation of the Old Testament. Jewish tradition says that seventy scribes translated the Hebrew Bible into Greek between 285 BC and 247 BC. Since the Septuagint contains the book of Daniel, we know that the book of Daniel existed even earlier in time.
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Josephus states that the book of Daniel was shown to Alexander the Great when he approached the city of Jerusalem (Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews, Book XI, chapter VIII, section 5). History says that Alexander the Great approached Jerusalem around 331 BC. This means that the book of Daniel existed before this event. It predicted that Jerusalem would be conquered by Greece. Some critics will accept Josephus other accounts as being accurate, yet dispute this fact. [/FONT]
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Long standing Jewish tradition says that the book of Daniel existed before 450 BC. While this is not solid proof, it is consistent with the next fact.
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Ezekiel's Reference.[/FONT] Most critics widely accept the book of Ezekiel as being written between 586 BC and 538 BC. What is fascinating is that the author, Ezekiel, refers to Daniel in Ezekiel 14:14, 20. This implies that Daniel was alive during his time. Daniel claims to be the author (Daniel 12:4) of the book which bears his name and to have lived during the life of Nebuchadnezzar (Daniel 1-2) and Darius (Dan. 9:1). This implies that Daniel was a contemporary of Ezekiel and lived to see the fall of Babylon (Dan. 5:30-31).
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Internal Evidence.[/FONT] For decades, the critics said the proof that Daniel was written near Christs time is found in the Greek names of musical instruments recorded in the book and in the fact that a portion of Daniel was written in Aramaic. After excavations in Babylonia and Assyria, it has become clear that the musical instruments (lyre, sackbut, and trigon) mentioned in Daniel 3 do not have Greek names (which would argue for a later date for Daniel), but Babylonian names from the seventh century (600 B.C.). These instruments originated in Old Persia and were then assimilated by the Greeks. [/FONT]
