Things to consider about the Ten Commandments

[mercy1061]

Yup... and that fig tree could represent Israel which for a time ceased to exist as a nation.

The simple laws of nature teach us that plants need light for growth; what I am saying is simply, you must use the light of torah to increase your understanding.

 

[Sophrosyne]

So committing sin is the law of nature? Contrary to nature, means obeying G-d? I thought sin is the violation of the law, are you familiar with the scientific term photosynthesis?

Are you saying our nature isn't to sin or not? You can think all you want about the definition of sin doesn't make it so as Jesus himself equated sins that the Law doesn't specify at all and are not in violation of it.

 

[from scratch]

Maybe I shall do like the prodigal son and return to my father's house? Maybe I will ask the owner of the swine house, if he would shut down the slaughter house, stop washing the hogs let them play in the mud; allow the hogs to live? Have you heard the story of the three little pigs and the big bad wolf?

Yes and not only are my bricks made of rock, they're also reinforced. so huff and puff all you like. They'll wear your poor lungs out.

 

[Sophrosyne]

The simple laws of nature teach us that plants need light for growth; what I am saying is simply, you must use the light of torah to increase your understanding.

My understanding is increased through the Holy Spirit

 

[mercy1061]

Does it matter if the swine fertilize the dirt your veggies grow in?

That is an interesting concept, I like that! So why not eat the veggies, with the swine and fertilizer? Do you also eat pig dung?

 

[Sophrosyne]

The simple laws of nature teach us that plants need light for growth; what I am saying is simply, you must use the light of torah to increase your understanding.

non sequitor to what I posted and unrelated to the 10 commandments

 

[from scratch]

You said that you don't obey Moses, what is there to discuss? "Thou shall not bear false witness against thy brother".

The grace and truth came by Jesus Christ if you care to.

 

[mercy1061]

Jesus said it doesn't defile a man because it comes out in the drought. Jesus said one is defiled by what comes out of the mouth and He wasn't talking about vomit.

Yeshua says what comes out of the body defiles a man, because it comes out as drought. So you see pig dung makes the body of the pig unclean, of course the pig wallowing in the mud doesn't help remain clean.

When a dog vomits, his body is unclean, why don't you kiss him in the mouth right after he vomits? A drunkard in the bathroom, vomiting in his toilet, is like a dog returning to his vomit.

 

[from scratch]

I've grafted branches before, and grafting branches doesn't make the tree change into that type of tree at all as you folks are trying to equate that grafting Jews into a tree makes the tree Jewish or grafting Israel into the tree makes it Israel.

 

[from scratch]

THANK YOU!

Believing JEWS.

Ok so is Moses a believing Jew?
is Paul a believing Jew?
Is David a believing Jew?
is John the Baptist a believing Jew?

Did you forget someone usually called a Jew?

 

[mercy1061]

yup on some farms they grow veggies in hogwash

I stopped talking about hogwash, you brought it up again, so does washing the hogs before eating him make you clean? Yeshua allowed the demons to go into swine, and you brag about eating them? Those demon possessed hogs did jump into the lake to wash themselves, but they drowned?

 

[mercy1061]

The concept of unclean meat only exists for Jews under the Law, it doesn't exist for Christians according to the Council of Jerusalem the only meat we have to concern ourselves with is bloody meat.

What about swine given to idols or demons?

 

[from scratch]

Breaking news everyone!
Jesus who is the creator, who says that He and his Father are one. Gave His commandments that are not the same as His Father's Holy Ten commandments.
I come to do the will of "My Father will" but I don't want My Father's law. Interesting isn't it?
Sound right to you?
Oh what positions we take to defend the untenable idea that the Ten commandments are not for Christians.
The same Christian that says that God is His only God.
That says he should not steal.
That says he should not commit adultery.
That says he should not covet.
That says he should not take the name of the Lord in vain.
That says he should bow to images in worship or make them.
That says he should not lie.
Wait a minute!!!
That is the Ten commandments!!!!!
Please note he does the things of the Ten commandments but they are not applicable to him. Oh yes, he does then but he does not keep them.
Oh what a tangle web we weave!

Its OK for the angry to mock. Sure wish you'd read the Bible and believe it.

 

[listed]

Won't throw in any more pearls for the swine to trample.

Yes and not only are my bricks made of rock, they're also reinforced. so huff and puff all you like. They'll wear your poor lungs out.

You have expressed my sentiments to a tee.

 

[from scratch]

Yeshua says what comes out of the body defiles a man, because it comes out as drought. So you see pig dung makes the body of the pig unclean, of course the pig wallowing in the mud doesn't help remain clean.

When a dog vomits, his body is unclean, why don't you kiss him in the mouth right after he vomits? A drunkard in the bathroom, vomiting in his toilet, is like a dog returning to his vomit.

Me thinketh thou needest a different Bible.

 

[from scratch]

What about swine given to idols or demons?

What about them. In the US no slaughter house is a place of worship to my knowledge and there aren't any temples selling meat that I know of.

 

[from scratch]

What about these verses in Galatians chapter 4
21 Tell me, you who want to be under the law, are you not aware of what the law says? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman. 23 His son by the slave woman was born according to the flesh, but his son by the free woman was born as the result of a divine promise.
24 These things are being taken figuratively: The women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar. 25 Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. 26 But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother. 27 For it is written:
“Be glad, barren woman,
you who never bore a child;
shout for joy and cry aloud,
you who were never in labor;
because more are the children of the desolate woman
than of her who has a husband.”[a]

28 Now you, brothers and sisters, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29 At that time the son born according to the flesh persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now. 30 But what does Scripture say? “Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman’s son.”[b] 31 Therefore, brothers and sisters, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman.

What about them? You make no comments.

 

[from scratch]

So committing sin is the law of nature? Contrary to nature, means obeying G-d? I thought sin is the violation of the law, are you familiar with the scientific term photosynthesis?

No sin also violates the law.

 

[mercy1061]

Yes and not only are my bricks made of rock, they're also reinforced. so huff and puff all you like. They'll wear your poor lungs out.

So you build your house like a pig?

 

[mercy1061]

No sin also violates the law.

What is it called when ypu break the law?