My rock challenge

[PsychoSarah]

Why can't I just talk about it? It is very important to use this information in the weaving of some basic concept. We only know very little thing at a high certainty. We accept most (nearly all) information that we do not know much about. And we do use those information for some very practical purposes.

A 5D space is a very important idea in my faith system.

For all you know, you use theories which are in conflict with your faith as, by your own admission, you don't actually understand them. To just accept stuff without trying to understand what you are accepting is foolish and lazy.

 

[juvenissun]

For all you know, you use theories which are in conflict with your faith as, by your own admission, you don't actually understand them. To just accept stuff without trying to understand what you are accepting is foolish and lazy.

Face the fact, you are not that smart to understand everything. 99% of what you know and what you do are things you do not understand. You have to learn how to trust. Otherwise, you better ... die.

 

[Queller]

Your child should not accuse you to be a deceiver.
He should ask you: why do you tell me that.
You certainly can not answer him.

Of course I can answer him.

But my father is God. He can certainly tell me why.

So what did he tell you when you asked the question?

If a student has a bad attitude, everything he learned would be useless, or even harmful.

Completely false. A student can have a bad attitude and still learn useful, non-harmful information.

 

[Queller]

Impossible? Think again.

Feel free to explain why it is not impossible for an object to have two different actual ages.

I am not going to argue with you on that. I am not a physicist.

I'm not a physicist either. How can something have two actual ages?

 

[PsychoSarah]

Face the fact, you are not that smart to understand everything. 99% of what you know and what you do are things you do not understand. You have to learn how to trust. Otherwise, you better ... die.

That sounds almost threatening, but I certainly have no need to bring up theories I have no understanding of whatsoever to defend my position, especially if I don't know whether or not they are a defense of my position. That the majority of information is unknown doesn't mean that 1% that is isn't vast enough for me to use effectively.

 

[Queller]

Excuse me?

The two (GR & SR) should agree with each other totally.

If they don't, then GR needs to be reinterpreted

What's the problem here?

Your insistence that only GR should be reinterpreted. That completely ignores that fact that there are multiple different interpretations of the Bible. So why shouldn't both be reinterpreted?

 

[Queller]

I have my physical age and my psychological age. For example.

So what are the two different types of ages for say, a rock?

 

[PsychoSarah]

So what are the two different types of ages for say, a rock?

I already addressed this and defeated it.

 

[juvenissun]

That sounds almost threatening, but I certainly have no need to bring up theories I have no understanding of whatsoever to defend my position, especially if I don't know whether or not they are a defense of my position. That the majority of information is unknown doesn't mean that 1% that is isn't vast enough for me to use effectively.

The 5D concept is very important.
You do not see its meaning, just like you do not see the need of God.
I do.

 

[Kylie]

Tell us why these extra dimensions are important?

 

[theophilus777]

As I said, creation ex nihilo, or from nothing. I just snap my fingers and the rocks appear.

I've got a business proposition for that unique talent ...

 

[juvenissun]

Tell us why these extra dimensions are important?

Because they are NEEDED to answer hard questions about time. And if they do exist, then the hard question can be fully answered easily.

We do not usually have such a hard question. And a possible reasonable Full answer to the hard question is even rarer.

That is why it is so important. I don't think we can prove it to be true. But we can not prove it to be not true either. However, we are out of time. So, what would you do?

 

[PsychoSarah]

The 5D concept is very important.
You do not see its meaning, just like you do not see the need of God.
I do.

-_- you just previously said you don't really get the theory yourself, and you are assuming I don't get it.

 

[Kylie]

Because they are NEEDED to answer hard questions about time. And if they do exist, then the hard question can be fully answered easily.

We do not usually have such a hard question. And a possible reasonable Full answer to the hard question is even rarer.

That is why it is so important. I don't think we can prove it to be true. But we can not prove it to be not true either. However, we are out of time. So, what would you do?

What questions are you talking about? Also, please explain how they are difficult to answer without the 5D idea and how the 5D idea makes them easy to answer.

 

[DogmaHunter]

I create two rocks ex nihilo. I create one with two million years of embedded age and the other with none.

When you study them, your analysis shows that one rock is new and the other rock is old, despite the fact they are both the same age.

Am I being deceptive in making it look like one rock is older than the other?

I'ld like to expand your challenge.

Same scenario, but with a few tweaks:

- you are invisible, undetectable and not even part of the space-time continuum.
- you create 2 rocks ex-nihilo, one young and one old and leave no evidence of this creative process.
- you now set up a system that makes sure that all people who believe that one rock is older then the other are doomed for eternity.

In that scenario, I wouldn't even call you deceptive.

I'ld call you an immoral, brutal and cruel douchebag.
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[DogmaHunter]

Because they are NEEDED to answer hard questions about time. And if they do exist, then the hard question can be fully answered easily.

We do not usually have such a hard question. And a possible reasonable Full answer to the hard question is even rarer.

That is why it is so important. I don't think we can prove it to be true. But we can not prove it to be not true either. However, we are out of time. So, what would you do?

Only if the nonsense you believe is actually correct.
So not only is this an emotional argument, it's a circular one.

If I claim that the undetectable 7-headed dragon will eat you unless you wrap yourself in tin foil for a month, then I could also state that you are "out of time". But that wouldn't make my claims any more convincing, now would it?

 

[AV1611VET]

- you create 2 rocks ex-nihilo, one young and one old and leave no evidence of this creative process.

Would you explain what you mean by "leave no evidence"?

Are you taking the evidence with you? are you hiding the evidence? are you erasing the evidence? or is evidence not being generated?

This is the crux of my apple challenge thread: that no evidence is generated when creatio ex nihilo occurs.

 

[juvenissun]

Only if the nonsense you believe is actually correct.
So not only is this an emotional argument, it's a circular one.

If I claim that the undetectable 7-headed dragon will eat you unless you wrap yourself in tin foil for a month, then I could also state that you are "out of time". But that wouldn't make my claims any more convincing, now would it?

It seems your IQ is lowered recently. What did you do to yourself?

 

[juvenissun]

What questions are you talking about? Also, please explain how they are difficult to answer without the 5D idea and how the 5D idea makes them easy to answer.

This is your thread. Do you carefully examine all the inputs? I think I have explained your question from the first one I replied.

One such question is the embedded age question. It is easily answered by having two time lines.

 

[juvenissun]

-_- you just previously said you don't really get the theory yourself, and you are assuming I don't get it.

I don't get it. But what I got is more than you do.